FWIW, this was the same thing that homophobes were doing to gay people.
It’s not based in evidence or logic.
Could be that phenomenon (illusory correlation?) where there are a few rare examples of someone who is [sexual minority aka. gay/trans] is also a pedophile, and that particular example of a crime becomes prolific…but the general population doesn’t have any experience with [sexual minority] people. So they assume that being [sexual minority] means you also have pedophilic tendencies because that’s the only connection they know thanks to that prolific crime.
It’s not meant to make sense. It’s meant to make you shut down any argument in favor of giving non heterosexual people human rights. That’s all.
Because trans people are different, and they’re afraid of different people. So they make assumptions that those people are somehow dangerous. Racism, xenophobia, transphobia; it’s all the same stupid mentality.
I actually agree with bigots that we are dangerous as trans people (to cisheteronormative society). the caveat is that we shouldn’t give a fuck what they think since conforming to a violent society doesn’t benefit trans people. it’s why marginalizing pedophiles doesn’t make child rape go away, because they’re just a scapegoat for all the normal people and parents without any sexual attraction to their victims abusing children because of the power hierarchy
There is an ongoing attempt to create an equivalence of Trans Persons (and anyone exposing youth to LGBTQ+ ideas in any form, including loving families) to pedophiles through CONSTANT repetition, despite any lack of widespread evidence. There is also a simultaneous attempt to strongly advocate for death penalty for pedophiles. I’m sure you can see where this is heading …
The question I want answered is was the (fake) word “pedosexual” made up by them or by trolls making fun of them?
“Pedosexual” was a false flag operation by 4channers to try and make people think LGBTQ folks supported pedos.
Was that with the MAPS thing?
I honestly have no idea if MAPs are trolls or actual pedos trying to rebrand.
What are MAPs? First time I’ve come across it.
I think it was meant to be minor attracted person or some shit. I mostly just remember 4Chan trying to lump it into LGBT+ issues
Thank you for your reply.
MAPs is a 4chan troll yes
Mass purge of the Republican Party and owner class?
If the Republican Party can purge the United Kingdom they deserve the win that’s impressive range.
Only if justice was class blind, but it’s not.
That door can be made to swing both ways.
Only if you have the power to do so.
Also, pedophiles are not all child molesters and vice versa.
In fact, most child abusers are not pedophiles. They victimize children not because they are children but because they are easy prey.
It’s about the power and control. If their victims weren’t children, they’d be called sociopaths or psychopaths.
Pedophilia can be easily treated but because of hate-mongers who have conflated these two things, many fear they’ll be arrested if they seek help. Even if they’ve never done anything wrong. Some do become abusers because they feel like they have no safe way of dealing with their feelings.
Trying to equate LGBTQ to pedophilia is using misinformation and lies to hurt and scare.
It’s the ultimate in hate and ignorance.
Can’t call em Nazis, so that’s the next worst thing on the list.
Projection.
Even little babies know the difference between mommy and daddy. The shift in attitude that’s required to reform transphobia (I know) means digging into the basement of how you think of yourself and the people you love. This is threatening, it’s scary.
For the conservative, a trans person should not exist. It contradicts the ‘natural’ hierarchy or is a rebellion against God. So their must be an alternative motive: sexual perversion. So you connect the dots between “scary” and “sexually deviant” and pedophile is the natural result.
Calling a trans person a sexual threat soothes the dissonance by shifting the identity “trans” into something where the repulsion and fear make sense. Pedophilia is a box where you can put people whom you fear and hate them actively without the need to examine your own motivations or ever, ever have to look at it from a trans perspective.
well done. best philosophical/psychological post in the thread.
Transphobes aren’t using logic. They try to brand us as pedophiles to try to get rational people on their side and to normalize hate, but it’s a distraction. We’re obviously not pedos.
It also serves dual purpose because most transphobes look up to politicians who are literal pedos
Yuuup. Ten times out of ten it’s a republican politician who needs to “think of the children” a lot less.
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Of the infinitesimally small percentage who might be, (a) it has absolutely nothing to do with them being trans and (b) I wager they’d be less likely to act on it than cis pedos since the risk of violence is already significantly higher just from being trans. Not to defend pedos in any way- we want absolutely nothing to do with them
Use your brain
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You say, “biased towards the trans community,” I say, “biased against baseless bigotry,” as any sensible person should be.
Your ramblings may be scattered with statements that are agreeable in isolation (like “they are just people like the rest of us”), but your stance seems to ignore the fact that, unlike “the rest of us”, the trans community is being specifically targeted and marginalized, so for the sake of equity it seems fair (not biased) for the rest of us to more vehemently defend them.
Go ask one somewhere where they won’t be banned for explaining it to u.
Plus what’s ur goal here start a fight? Have a thread dunking on people who can’t defend themselves without getting banned?
People who bitch about being banned/blocked are always the most blockable/bannable human beings imaginable, istg.
Something you’d like to share with us?
Nar just pointing out the stupidity of asking such a question in such a place lol.
If there was some sort of evidence that would back up the explanation you wouldn’t get banned.
You get banned because there is no reason other than hatred they are falsely labeled as pedophiles.
It would be more accurate to say all conservatives or Christians are pedophiles. At least most of the documented instances have been.
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Are you telling me that lesbians weren’t allowed to get married because their was no groom(ing)?
it’s all part of the childist propaganda that says only people from outside of the family could ever hurt children when reality says otherwise. hence the church calling themselves God’s family, priests being called father, paternalistic bs like that
Well considering they elected Epstein’s closest friend (yeah it’s on tape), I would’nt try to make sens out of this. They need to hate people, they usually pick the easiest target aka minorities.
Transgender people often (wrongly) get their gender identity conflated with their sexuality. Transphobes already have a visceral reaction to a transgender person, so those feelings automatically extend to how they see a transgender person’s sexuality. And as others have mentioned they may be projecting their own perversions on other people. They have an unhealthy view of sexuality in general, which may be the origin for their transphobia aswell.
When I came out to my mother as transgender she had a hard time dealing with it. She seemed to have a weird fixation with my sexuality and sexual orientation whenever I tried to educate her on the subject, even after I explained to her that sexuality and sexual orientation is not related to my transgender identity.
My mom has always been a prude when it came to raising her boys and constantly would police our vocabulary and sexual jokes. But she had no issues making jokes and comments about my sexuality when I came out to her as a transgender woman. So I can only assume she had unresolved issues with the way she sees sexuality in a way that it makes her uncomfortable and she was projecting her own perversions and unhealthy view of sexuality onto my transgender identity. Because to her why else would I transition if not for my sexual perversions, since that’s the only way she can see world.
On a side note, ever since I started my transition I pretty much stopped watching porn all together. I masturbate less and my mind isn’t constantly fixated on sex and I’m able to experience the world through a much healthier lense. When I’m attracted to someone now, I’m not distracted by my sexual impulses as much and I’m much better able to connect with them as a person. So in short, embracing my transgender identity has dramatically decreased my uncontrolled sexual impulses. So when people paint us as some sort of deviant perverts, it’s actually quite the opposite and nothing could be further from the truth. Not to mention, our sexuality is only a sliver of our transgender identity and we don’t care for strangers making it a focus.
Projection and prejudice, probably.
Apart from concerted sociopolitical efforts to make an underclass that can be harmed at will and blamed for everything, there’s a couple of less deliberately malicious explanation for a lot of people.
1: Category violation -> perversion -> predator -> monster.
2: I don’t think it’s real -> they are lying -> why would they lie about gender -> to lull people into a false sense of security -> predator -> monster
Both are of course incredibly false and hateful, and both of course are pushed maliciously and cynically by many, but I think some people are actually taken in by one or other of these.
They took all the lessons learned from the satanic panic and the gay panic and applied them to the next target.
