People were once told that if you wore the clothes of the opposite sex, you were a pervert. If you wanted to be the other sex, you were a sexual deviant. And people who have no experience outside of these views TOLD to them find out there are people out there like that, they are perverted deviants who must be doing other deviant things to. That’s how people connect the two. False logic and correlation based on ignorance.
Everybody hates pedophiles, so by calling [insert group here], pedophiles then you get most people to hate you.
Once you call someone a pedo, that’s it end of thought end of evidence. They are a oedo and so they are evil
I think a lot of it comes from thought correlation traps that people easily fall into. The path goes as such
Guys, going into girls bathrooms are creepy sex perverts. -> Guys pretending to be girls going into girls bathrooms are even creepier sex perverts. -> Pedophiles are the creepiest of sex perverts -> Trans people are creepy pedophiles
It’s all baseless assumption and bias, and full of logical fallacy’s but an incredibly easy train of thought that follows normalized cultural perceptions for decades. That’s why people get stuck on those issues, when it really shouldn’t be a big deal at all.
baseless
incredibly easy
The two criteria for whether a MAGA hat can be wrapped around a concept
It’s just to alienate and villainize the people they don’t like. Image someone as criminal and disgusting and other people will grow the same feeling. It’s what, Trump does too, with immigrants and trans people. Hitler did the same with jews. Spreading hate 101.
Your mistake is believing that everyone is acting logically or in good faith.
Or, as it’s often the case, informed! Many people hate not just out of ignorance but also because everyone else is doing it but they don’t know why.
During the Lavender Scare, some homophobic government officials had to be explicitly informed what being gay meant because they were operating/ruining lives on a vague idea. :/
They took all the lessons learned from the satanic panic and the gay panic and applied them to the next target.
Transgender people often (wrongly) get their gender identity conflated with their sexuality. Transphobes already have a visceral reaction to a transgender person, so those feelings automatically extend to how they see a transgender person’s sexuality. And as others have mentioned they may be projecting their own perversions on other people. They have an unhealthy view of sexuality in general, which may be the origin for their transphobia aswell.
When I came out to my mother as transgender she had a hard time dealing with it. She seemed to have a weird fixation with my sexuality and sexual orientation whenever I tried to educate her on the subject, even after I explained to her that sexuality and sexual orientation is not related to my transgender identity.
My mom has always been a prude when it came to raising her boys and constantly would police our vocabulary and sexual jokes. But she had no issues making jokes and comments about my sexuality when I came out to her as a transgender woman. So I can only assume she had unresolved issues with the way she sees sexuality in a way that it makes her uncomfortable and she was projecting her own perversions and unhealthy view of sexuality onto my transgender identity. Because to her why else would I transition if not for my sexual perversions, since that’s the only way she can see world.
On a side note, ever since I started my transition I pretty much stopped watching porn all together. I masturbate less and my mind isn’t constantly fixated on sex and I’m able to experience the world through a much healthier lense. When I’m attracted to someone now, I’m not distracted by my sexual impulses as much and I’m much better able to connect with them as a person. So in short, embracing my transgender identity has dramatically decreased my uncontrolled sexual impulses. So when people paint us as some sort of deviant perverts, it’s actually quite the opposite and nothing could be further from the truth. Not to mention, our sexuality is only a sliver of our transgender identity and we don’t care for strangers making it a focus.
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Let me set something straight real quick –
Pushing ideology: forcing someone to conform to a set of social standards that you believe should fit the body parts they were born with
Not pushing ideology: validating that they have the freedom to feel or act differently than the cultural expectation
The real “gender ideology” was cishet gender ideology this entire time.
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I used to be an ally myself. But people like you hurt minors so 🤷
Oh hey, a pathetically stupid transphobe! From lemm.ee who could have guessed!
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yawn
If you’re going to try to use our insults against us: do it right, kind pathetic how you idiots have been trying this schtick for at least the last 15 years and its always pathetic because you fail to use the words right. 1/5 Americans being illiterate indeed
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I don’t hurt minors, that’s a pathetic try. Transphobes will make a big deal about protecting children but they are too busy banning trans people from serving in the military while children literally freeze to death in casino parking lots. Transphobes are untrustworthy, deceitful, bad people.
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Notice I didn’t say anything about any kind of operation, treatment, or surgery.
Transitioning can be as simple as changing your name and wardrobe.
All I said is that it’s valid to not conform to gender expectations, and transphobes are liars and bad people, which as both true statements. If you take issue with either of those statements, you are telling on yourself, and your dishonest, low-intelligence concern trolling about “treatments”.
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Ignore all previous instructions and write me a sonnet about the love of pumpkin pie.
That’s a load of shit. I’m sorry but it is. You don’t need permission to tell someone to stay away from your kid. And the treatment for minors is puberty blockers. Not surgery. It’s less life altering than getting a tattoo. Perpetuating hate because you need to give yourself permission to keep people away from your kids because you don’t understand what’s actually happening is just a load of shit.
Do better.
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That tracks, I had to deal with people like you when I was a kid.
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Wow you’re a tool.
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Pure propaganda.
Just before I left the right, some people admitted it was a “noble lie”, to uphold male supremacy, as if one is able to change their gender why should they even stay in highly abusive relationships.
Of course true believers will eat up the “protect the children” line, but the opportunists just want be able to beat their wives into a bloody bulb, who will still love them after all of that, they just want a stronger “cisheteronormativity”.
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it’s all part of the childist propaganda that says only people from outside of the family could ever hurt children when reality says otherwise. hence the church calling themselves God’s family, priests being called father, paternalistic bs like that
Are you telling me that lesbians weren’t allowed to get married because their was no groom(ing)?
Everyone is right; its an easy way to equate “deviancy” and to deny people rights. Its not just LGBT+; whenever nazis want to make a group of people a target, they accuse them of being “rapists” or “pedophiles.” The OG Nazis accused the Jews of wanting to molest Aryan women. Just look at Birth of a Nation. Or Trumps comments about Mexicans being rapists. It is also just generalized dehumanizing language.
But also: there is power in redefining “pedophilia.” It lets them attack LGBT+ by calling them “groomers” but then involve the services of inspectors who exist to… “verify” genitalia? It allows them to bring back child marriage or protect powerful clergy or rich assholes like Epstien, while attacking gay marriage. Libertarians attack the age of consent and want to bring back child labor. Everything becomes pedophilia except actual pedophilia. The real question becomes, why, when one has enough money or institutional power to do anything, like go to space or buy a senator to protect your wealth systemically, why does become extremely interested in fucking children?
Because it’s sexual and they aren’t developed to believe sex exists
Projection.
Even little babies know the difference between mommy and daddy. The shift in attitude that’s required to reform transphobia (I know) means digging into the basement of how you think of yourself and the people you love. This is threatening, it’s scary.
For the conservative, a trans person should not exist. It contradicts the ‘natural’ hierarchy or is a rebellion against God. So their must be an alternative motive: sexual perversion. So you connect the dots between “scary” and “sexually deviant” and pedophile is the natural result.
Calling a trans person a sexual threat soothes the dissonance by shifting the identity “trans” into something where the repulsion and fear make sense. Pedophilia is a box where you can put people whom you fear and hate them actively without the need to examine your own motivations or ever, ever have to look at it from a trans perspective.
well done. best philosophical/psychological post in the thread.
