But ublock origin lite is by the same dev… Not as many features but it conforms to the new rules and is still much better than not having a blocker if you use chrome or edge.
Or just use Firefox
Or just use a fork of firefox. Firefox isn’t looking very favorable lately.
I’m giving Floorp a try right now. It’s actually pretty good.
Try zen browser too!
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Who will develop the underlying browser then?
Firefox was stubborn enough not to support H.265 till JUST recently and only on windows… Doesn’t work with my 4k security cameras as well as Chrome or Safari based browsers.
H.265 is patent encumbered. Blame the 2 or 3(?) patent pool holders (for-profit corporations, unlike non-profit -and-slowly-losing-market-share Mozilla) for not making it free to use for everyone.
This is why AV1 is preferred, it saves bandwidth and there’s no threat of being sued into oblivion.
My work uses a web-based interface that’s very annoying to use on Firefox. I’m unfortunately tied to Chrome in the meantime, so uBlock lite is a lifesaver.
Missing critical features:
Filter lists only update with the extension, you cannot update them dynamically
No making your own filters and thus no element picker for blocking annoyances on a webpage (a feature so good apple literally baked it into safari)
No support for external lists (which means if you back up your own filters into a list you cannot easily reimport)
No changing behavior on a per site basis
A number of other features as well that are more strictly power user features but still really handy like dynamic filtering and strict blocking domains.
If you have the option stop using chrome and edge, they are some of the worst options you could choose. Even outside of adblock and manifest v3 chrome is horrendous for data harvesting bullshit and edge isn’t great. If you don’t have the option because of an overzealous it dept or whatever and are forced to use it ubo lite is your best option probably and my heart goes out to you
I’m a bit confused as an Adblock Plus user, why did the ublock dev drop those features? ABP uses manifest v3 too and it still has all of those. So it’s clearly not about them being impossible.
According to Adblock Plus’ own blog post about the matter:
With Manifest V3, Adblock Plus is required to limit how many filter lists we have available to users. We’ll have the ability to offer up to 100 pre-installed filter lists that you can turn on and off depending on your preferences. From these available filter lists, users will be able to choose 50 that they can keep turned on at any given time. We’re working to ensure that popular filter lists our users love are supported by us, and that any updates to these lists are brought to you by frequent new releases of the extension. This does mean that initially, our users will no longer be able to subscribe to any filter lists outside of what is provided in the extension.
Re: Element Blocker:
The Block element feature will continue to exist even after the Manifest V3 version of Adblock Plus officially launches. Manifest V3 does require us to adhere to limits with filter lists and user created blocking rules, so there’s a chance things may change in the future. However, we don’t have details quite yet! If you have any more questions about this or anything else, our support team are the best people to ask at support@adblockplus.org.
So this says to me that baked in filter lists are now required, custom lists will not work, and Block Element is probably functioning illegally if it is indeed still functioning though that may change in the future in either direction.
Changing blocker behavior on specific sites is the only thing in that list that I see UBO disallow and ABP not mention at all. Not sure why that was changed.
I’ve read that too, but I still have the ability to add a custom list. It says initially, so I assumed they got around that issue by now, considering it isn’t the case for me.
I technically use Edge which afaik still allows MV2, so in case the extension somehow implements both and defaults to mv2 if available, I’ve decided to install Chrome and get ABP there to test. Even in Chrome, the ability to add a custom list is still there. As are all the other features, like manual updating. With custom list I mean both the ability to add a list per URL, and the ability to add custom arbitrary rules directly.
I don’t really see why element blocking wouldn’t be possible or allowed under Manifest v3. Like, it’s entirely client-side. Manifest never comes into play there.
What I can imagine is that custom lists might work that same way too, removing the ads from the page after they’ve already loaded rather than blocking the web request directly which is afaik how adblocking works in mv2. I can’t tell you if that’s the case or not.
Lol who downvoted this
Probably because of the Adblock Plus mention. It’s mired in controversy because of its acceptable ads toggle and requiring ad giants to pay for it. So I can imagine people downvoting comments that put it in a positive light compared to other adblockers.
You may be right, but whether you hate ABP specifically or not should be irrelevant to the question. The question was why other extensions - like Adblock - can have those feature but uBlock Lite can’t. What’s different?
I’d also like to know, personally. I’d wondered the same thing.
The best option here is to just tank Chrome’s market share instead of making something that’s obviously not ideal, work.
I am from Germany and it is just sad how many people use these apps from shit companies without thinking, when suitable alternatives exist everywhere. Just use Firefox, it will work for 99,9% without any flaw. I would love to ditch WhatsApp, but could only convinge a few people to change to Signal. It is as easy as downloading a new app to prevent supporting Meta, but that’s too much effort for many :-(
I switched to Firefox many years ago, after their announcement I switched to Waterfox and I’m very happy with it.
Are you sure? In Brave browser it’s all nice and dandy.
Going to guess that’s based on your region rather than your browser
Many chromium browser have built-in adblockers and some of them are on-par with uBO. These are not extensions, so Google can’t really do anything about them. Not worried in the slightest.
Name one that is remotely on par with uBlock and is open source.
Shields.
EDIT: Let’s both save our time: "Brave bad, CEO evil, Chromium, cryptoooo, etc… ". I don’t care. Mozilla isn’t less shitty at all and Firefox is mediocre (source: have been a FF user/advocate from 2002 to 2021).
I’m not interesting in debating.
If you don’t care you shouldn’t care to tell others about it either.
As soon as you tell others, others will tell you.
Brave bad, CEO evil, Chromium, cryptoooo, etc… Bullshit browser.
Brave bad, CEO evil, Chromium, cryptoooo, etc… Bullshit browser.
You people are so dumb, predictable and obtuse… Welcome to my blocklist :-)
Welcome to my blocklist :-)
Wow there’s so many awesome people here :O
Cringe.
Blocked.
You’re not interested in debating because you’re scared of being shown how wrong you are. Don’t say anything if you don’t wish to debate anyone, it’s an open forum, in case you forgot. You don’t dictate the rules.
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https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh
Doesn’t cover 100% of what uBO did, but it still works just as good IMO with DNS based ad-blocking on top.
Thanks!!
Surprised so few people are aware of this. It seems equivalent to me when you give it the same permissions Ublock Origin had.
Agreed. I haven’t even found anything that it doesn’t block that UbOrigin did.
But then the whack-a-mole game continues, and you’re constantly having to find new extensions to serve the same task. When you could simply switch to firefox, deal with the very minor growing pains, and keep using uBlock with no problems whatsoever.
Always has been.
I was a super early adopter for firefox. I started using it back in 2005-2006. I’m pretty sure it was still in beta when I started using it.
Over the past 20 years I’ve watched while firefox users have formed a goddamn cult around a software. It’s insane to me, especially because I’m seeing exactly the same things from Mozilla that I was seeing from Microsoft (and later Google) at the time I decided to switch from IE to firefox to begin with…
Firefox isn’t special. It’s falling for all the cloud-based privacy invasive enshittification that Chrome has so far. It’s just getting there slower.
So cool your jets. Especially considering uBlock Origin Lite is uBlock Origin. It’s just compatible with the Manifest V3 standard.
i was able to load it in a (not chrome) chromium-based browser without issue, just the notice across the addon’s page.
the ‘lite’ version is also on there, seems to work ‘ok’. adguard and a few others are also there–they must all be mv3, as only the full ubo has the warning notice on its page of those i checked.
all the mv3 ones run the risk of having updates rejected or delayed by google, especially if they contain code or filter updates (filters must be packed with the addon in mv3) to combat changes google makes to their own sites. firefox or a trusted customized build or maintained fork is the way to go now.
Chrome is no longer available on my computer.
I only use chrome for my work stuff, and that’s because I work with g-suite a lot.
Chrome fucking sucks
Never has been 🔫 (at least for a couple of years)
I wish I could say the same. Web dev. 🫡 But at least I’m using Chromium, if that’s even slightly better.
Recently switched to Waterfox from Firefox and loving it. Much faster than the latter and I can use all of my add ons.
Haven’t used Chrome in years so they can suck it.
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Instead we get an almost unusable internet where ads take up more and more real estate.
Its even worse than just hurting usability. Lots of ad networks are not policing their advertising customers and malicious payloads have been injected from ads. So allowing ads is a security risk because of the lack of security at the various ad networks.
It’s even worse when you consider the entire point of advertising is to deliver a targeted payload at a very specific demographic. So you can target IT folks of a specific company, etc.
uBO is not just an ad blocker, its almost a firewall against malware and a tracking filter
I’d be okay with sites showing me unintrusive non targeted ads, but since it’s all or nothing I choose nothing.
some some youtubers that had setup like that, it was so cringey. its from idiocracy
I love this movie but honestly it’s getting to the point where I can’t even watch it without getting upset.
I only made it through like one season of Handmaid’s Tale, it was too real.
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Listen scro, Imm just tryin to keep the people from gettin deaded
What movie is that?
Idiocracy
Movie turning into a documentary in real time.
I was about to comment something similar but you said it before I did. Sometimes I’ll mistakenly open YouTube with Chrome and then I realize I messed up because I have to sit through three, sometimes one-minute long ads just to watch a twenty second video. I’ll typically just nope out and switch to Firefox. The worst thing is they’re unskippable and I swear for some of them the ad actually pauses if you switch to another tab or browser. I’m getting ads even on super old videos so I’m pretty sure it isn’t all to do with the channels themselves monetizing their videos.
3 one minute long adds are better than those 2 hour long prageru racist propaganda videos trying to masquerade as “Educational” content
Im old enough to remember the internet before ads, and with ads became a thing and you had to make sure to keep your speakers low/off all the time less some screaming loud ad popped up somewhere to burst your eardrums at 2am.
There were so many obnoxious, visual cancer ads.
Then they became actual digital cancer by being injection points for viruses and malware, and thus adblockers became a necessity.
And they remain a necessity to this day, for the same reason as they were 20+ years ago.
and yet the ad servers want to blame the end user for adblocking.
not their absolute refusal to moderate or police any of the content they deliver.
and yet the ad servers want to blame the end user for adblocking. not their absolute refusal to moderate or police any of the content they deliver.
This is the American way. You try to shit blame elsewhere so noone puts the onus on you to improve so you can keep a larger portion of the profit. “Fuck you I got mine” should be printed on our money lol
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU WON!!!
I went to help out a friend, a few years ago, he runs vanilla Edge, I can’t believe anyone actually uses the internet like that.
I’ve been on Firefox since I left Internet Explorer many years ago. But, recently, I switched to LibreWolf, and I’ve been checking out Pale Moon. Pale Moon is close to doing everything I want, but not quite there.
Webserial is only reason I see to install Chrome. For everything else Firefox works great.
Yeah, I heard someone say a week or so ago that they straight disabled it in the browser, and now only the gimped version that works with Manifest V3 works now. Thankfully I switched to Firefox when all this Manifest V3 stuff was announced. As far as I know it’s the only browser out there that isn’t based on Chromium (which Google also controls, so browsers like Brave will likely be affected by this soon as well, unless a bunch of those smaller browsers get together and fork Chromium and maintain it themselves, which I’m not very hopeful about) and so doesn’t have to worry about these shenanigans.
Brave and Vivaldi are chromium based but have adblocking built in rather than relying on an extension. So while they will eventually be impacted on extension support, the built in adblocking (which is quite robust) won’t be affected.
I used Brave for a while and found I still needed to use ublock to cover some things, especially stuff like Youtube ads.
Odd, I’ve been using Brave for a few months now and have not seen any ads on YouTube. I specifically use it on my phone to avoid YouTube ads and allow background playback.
I haven’t used it in a couple years now, so maybe they’ve gotten better. shrug Also never tried it on my phone, I use duckduckgo’s browser.
But then you’re indirectly giving the enemy (Google) power by increasing their browser market share, which in turn lets them dictate the future of the web.
Fair, unfortunately though the chromium browsers have features that I enjoy that are not available in Firefox on mobile (for example, tab groups).
This isn’t a direct replacement for tab groups, but there’s a Firefox extension called Tree Style Tab that organizes your tabs into a nested tree structure. I use it a lot to emulate tab groups and the way it lays out the tabs makes it much easier to read imo. It might be worth taking a look if tab groups are chromium’s “killer feature” for you.
If you don’t mind me asking, are there any other must-have features that chromium has that Firefox doesn’t?
It’s mobile where I like the tab groups really, and unfortunately the extensions I’ve found that try to mimic the functionality don’t work there. Honestly that’s the big one but it’s pretty major for me. With the way I tend to browse and research topics it’s hard to manage without tab groups.
The only other big one is services that don’t support Firefox. I use GeForce Now for game streaming so I do that through Brave.
Safari had its own web engine, WebKit, which chromium’s web engine, blink, is actually a fork of.
Opera Used to have it’s own web engine, presto, but they rebased to blink in 2013.
But yah, your options these days for the basis of your browser are basically WebKit(Apple), Gecko(Mozilla) and Blink(Google).
I swapped to Chrome years ago because YouTube stopped working right on Firefox.
I’ve started the process of swapping back to Firefox after 10 years with Chrome over this.
They hate us
Always have
It is 100000% a reason to split Chrome and the ad sales part of Google into different companies.
It won’t solve the problem but the pressures end up being orders of magnitude different.
Frankly they should probably split off the ad side from everything else.
