Where would you move to ride out a potential WWIII?
Chatham Islands ?
I chose Tasmania, am here now… I dont think anywhere is but i am hoping it’s lesser and i am not the literal tip of the spear.
Albiet the poulation is older, white, conservative, religious so there is that problem.
How do you like Tasmania?
Most of the violence and oppression gets exported, so it’s probably best to just sit tight here in the heart of the empire.
If I were to stay in the U.S., I’d probably go to Hawaii, probably Maui or Lanai.
Hawai’i will be a main base of operations for strategic command and targeted as a result. The islands are crawling with the US military and then there is the naval installation at Pearl Harbor. If I had to go with an island in the chain though, I would choose Moloka’i. That is if the locals would have me. They are more self sustaining there.
I recommend against Hawaii. It’s not exactly self sustaining since there are too many people living there. Housing/rent is crazy high so there are many homeless. Everything is much more expensive. Jobs can be hard to find. The islands are sinking. Storms still hit every season. Depending on the island, you may be dealing with volcanic eruptions and vog. And I do believe their coral reefs are bleaching. It sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Then factor in the locals, they only want locals living there and to restore their Hawaiian Kingdom, #GoHomeHaole. Best to pick somewhere else.
Oh I agree. I don’t belong there being the primary reason I wouldn’t, among others you listed. I love it there and I have long term generational personal connections, but out of respect, I would not choose to live there. Aloha I ko’u 'Ohana.
There are no military bases on maui. Just a few armories and a small national guard station.
While Latin America is, overall, a good choice, it’s important to recognize that the mask off fascism we are seeing from the US will only increase the meddling they already do on their “backyard”, so keep that in mind.
Was gonna say that.
It was pretty safe in the last two world wars.
If you weren’t living under one of the US sponsored dictatorships, sure.
Which countries are you talking about?
Costa Rica, Panama, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, Venezuela, Peru, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay and Brazil and probably more I’ve failed to remember.
That’s was after WWII, during WWII Latin America was a “safe” heaven
I suppose if your only concern is whether a bomb is going to drop on you, you are correct. But maybe you should consider if being kidnapped, tortured and killed without your family ever knowing what actually happened to you is “safe”
“Which countries” basically all of them since the 1800s
If we take its actual definition; far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist, countries like Cuba for sure fits the bill. Now Cuba is authoritarian (and normal since they are in permanent and genuine threat from its neighbor) and probably that is not what is in your mind. Latin America is, as many as you pointed out, no ideal… but most countries there at least lacks of a strong government to enforce things (for better or worse) so, in a turbulent world, it is indeed a better bet. I think, for the time being, Spain has proven to be resilient to authoritarianism and even the voters of “extreme” parties are not that extreme themselves! In Latin America, Mexico is proven to have an amazing leadership (today, I consider it the best worldwide) so unlikely to change overnight. Colombia, Chile and Uruguay seems promising too.
See, when we analyze Latin America countries, one cannot think exclusively in terms of US or Europe political science. Our states may seem like weak forces when scrutinized from afar, however this is exactly the problem. Fascism has different ways of spreading through institutions and evangelical militias or drug cartels are literally everywhere. Sometimes, our states do not enforce fascism by law. They are weak on surface and extremely dangerous in their militias and affiliations with drug cartels. The contradiction is the rule around here. Mexico is not the heaven you make it sound. Do not trust a country’s safety based on official governments, it is a starter error when analyzing Latin America politics
I hear you! That is why I wanted to go with the definition of Fascism, but you are right. Let me rephrase it; If the world continues the path it is going, countries like Mexico seems to be a great bet to move in if you come with some good financial resources since you can compliment’s government security with private methods ones (like a gated community). Mexico will likely be neutral in a global conflict. Likewise, Spain seems good because I don’t see Spaniards been dragged by Brussels into any global conflict and if their American bases there get attacked, I see most people just ask to withdraw from NATO before entering in conflict themselves. Morocco, in spite I despise what they do to West Sahara’s (in tents for 40 years) and its coziness with Israel, it is quite stable too… If Morocco leadership (and Spanish!) could only see how greatly they could benefit from the current situation if they both acted like Mexico… being neutral and be a beacon for skilled/affluent migrants and investment!
A concerning example regarding what I’m saying is the fact that over Rio de Janeiro there are drug cartels which distribute cocaine packed in Israel’s flag. I wish I was kidding.
Is it because they’re Jewish? They support Palestine’s genocide? No, they’re Christian Neopentecostal Evangelicals who apply their (unofficial but VERY real) rules based on the Bible and make money over cocaine cartels. Israel’s flag is a way of showing they are God’s chosen and the true governors of Rio de Janeiro.
This is only a superficial example.
Thanks for the article! Yes, South America is not free from this. One thing I have learned in my life is that how similar people we are everywhere… only circumstances make us seem different. Long gone are my admiration for Scandinavians! What most South America seems however (specially if a sizeable country), is distant enough from China, US and Russia to be easily dragged along in a conflict… and also their governments are weak enough to implement a global draft for instance.
China obviously
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Oh no poor wasps can’t feel superior living in China!
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China doesn’t take refugees
You don’t have to become a refugee, can just get a job there.
You cannot be a refugee there, you need a job.
EU has 10% immigrants. China has 0,1% immigrants.
1,3 million Syrians took refuge in the EU while barely any could go to china.
China isn’t poor, they are unwilling.
Europeans have actively worked to destroy Syria and other countries along with the US, that’s why people are fleeing countries like Syria. Seems appropriate that Europe would be taking refugees from countries Europe helped destroy.
Say something bad about china :)
Europe lacks independence. There’s far right movements, infiltrated by foreign interest. There’s racism here.
USA is going totalitarian.
Now, say something bad about china :) you might get banned though by your homies
go back to reddit
I’ll do it for you.
China censors the shit out of their population. And if you want to be part of the 0,1% immigrants in china, you cannot afford to criticise a government of 1,4 billion people.
Because you are nothing compared to the government.
Go to china, so that I can’t read your comments anymore because of the great firewall.
Marquesas islands. They are very large, no dangers, lot of hideouts, lot of food resources, innaccessible for wheel vehicles, almost impossible to build large bases and to urbanise (small interest for China), they are isolated from other archipelagos, and the islands have not even 10k inhabitants in total (14 islands) so no one would get interest in nuking here.
I’m sold! Got to start learning French now.
Exactly where I am.
I moved to a backwater town in the middle of the desert for a fucking reason, worse comes to worst and I’ve got the benefit of being able to travel in literally any direction and be on res.
East Africa. I just like the idea.
Think my home country Suriname is pretty safe. Almost no one knows it exists and there’s plenty of places to ride out instability
New Zealand
I’m staying right here in the imperial core where I can inflict the most damage when the time comes.
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I was about to say Mars, but Elon Rat plans to go there
Mars is boring
Choose a cooler planet like Pluto
We will know the best place after whatever event happens. It’s always hard to predict these things with so many variables.
Vietnam. Decent enough government and standard of living, and they whooped America’s ass so bad that it’d be political suicide to go back there. I mean, what kind of timeline would we have to be on for someone to be stupid enough to… hmm.
Considering that fucking Greenland is caught up in it now, idk that anywhere is safe.
Communism is kind of a red flag though
You get a gold star for that.
I am going to timetravel to the 1890s
The dream of the 1890s is alive in Portland
It’s the dysentery, isn’t it?
The historian Zeev Sternhell has traced the ideological roots of fascism back to the 1880s and in particular to the fin de siècle theme of that time
(Wikipedia )
So if you could timetravel back a bit more and see if rebooting fixes this whole thing…
