Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.

How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump…

  • HeadfullofSoup
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    100% chance but mostly because i think that the plan

    1. Let trump do what he want
    2. Kill trump
    3. Put a puppet like vance in is place
    4. Use trump death to do what they want with the reason of stopping the big bad left
  • @N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    A public assassination like Kennedy’s is meant to send a message. Trump would just have a cardiac event and never come out of the hospital. The real issue will be that he’s old and fat and eats trash, so he could have a legit health problem and die from natural causes easily at his age.

    But then, President JD Vance. I don’t think anyone but Peter Thiel and Elon Musk want that. Trump sucks, but he’s the devil you know. Vance could be turboHitler or just hand the whole country to Silicon Valley. Rule by ChatGPT may be the worst of all possible worlds.

    • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      Vance has no conviction behind anything he ever says. Just google “jd vance never trump” and I’m sure you’ll find a slew of videos from a few years ago where he was saying he’s “a never trump guy”.

      Kinda funny how quickly he spread his asshole to present himself for trump then.

      • @Serinus@lemmy.world
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        Vance could be relatively good. Signs point to no, but those signs are weak. The only thing I truly know about him is that he’ll lie for power. What he does once he gets that power is anyone’s guess.

        He’s close to Peter Thiel. His book is really fucking condescending towards the rural poor. (Why don’t they just get out like he did?) He’s young enough to go for a second term if he gets half a first term. And he hates Trump except when he needs to use him to gain power.

        That’s the complete record of what we know about Vance. Maybe his book was bullshit that he knew would play well with rich conservatives. Maybe he was using Peter Thiel. Maybe there’s a human in there we’ve never seen. Or maybe not.

    • @FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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      Trump crashing the economy, Trump dying from whatever, Vance taking over and taking credit for any kind of recovery sounds almost like its planned.

      • @null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Nah. The damage Trump has done can’t be undone.

        Sure vance might replace him and take credit for any recovery, but this level of destruction was not planned.

        • @slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org
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          I do hope so. The whole don’t buy american movement is just gonna pick up more and more. Once people realise that that’s the best course of action anyway, there is no going back.

    • Fonzie!
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      So first kill Vance unawares, then kill Drumpf? Gotcha, noted!

      • @radix@lemmy.world
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        President Mike Johnson outlaws women going out in public alone and institutes daily Bible reading classes. Attendance is mandatory if you don’t want to end up in an El Salvador slave prison.

    • @Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org
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      Trump sucks, but he’s the devil you know. Vance could be turboHitler or […]

      I don’t buy that.

      Whoever would be able, and willing, and succeeding with the first one, is an evil person, and would already have a plan with the second one. An evil plan, I guess, that would make the second one scared enough to become that puppet.

        • @Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org
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          I haven’t thought of him. I think he has very different methods, and btw, Orange is already his puppet :)

          I have thought about money-stuffed Americans (not only from the Us of) and Chinese methods.

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    It’s hard to say. He’s definitely closer to it than any president since JFK. But security is way better these days. And before the FBI comes knocking on my door, this is just an objective analysis.

    We’ve already had a shooter with a near miss. So clearly there’s the will to do this among some segment of the population. Probably a conservative who feels betrayed or person who is truly far left, (not just a progressive).

    However, security during the campaign and for JFK was a lot less than it is now. It’s going to be a lot harder to get close enough with a rifle. If you think of a plan the USSS has already thought about it and probably has a counter of some sort.

    So while he’s definitely the closest, I don’t think we’ll see another president assassinated unless they do something truly stupid like gut the USSS.

  • TrackinDaKraken
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    Statistically, he’ll die of poor health in the next four years. He’s very unhealthy, and very old. Medicine can only do so much.

      • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed
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        false flags

        Who the fuck tries to do a Photo Op after a gunman tried to kill you?

        Also, how did secret service know there’s only one gunman?

        Seems fishy 🤔

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          There’s a lot or fishy things about that day. SS was…incredibly incompetent…but the photo op thing wasn’t their idea, at least it appeared that Trump was arguing with them to stand up & break free. SS surrounding him didn’t seem to approve of photo op.

          Then there’s the shots that rang out, and the casings on the roof. SS cleaned up the shooter’s corpse, the scene very quickly & they would not answer how many casings were found on the roof. There were 8 shots, IIRC? Then in follow-ups, they were pressed “how many casings were found on the roof?” And they never fucking answered. You can watch them continuously deflect. They must know, they have the answer, they don’t want to say. Answer the goddamn fucking question.

          Very. Fishy. Indeed.

  • @Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world
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    Highly unlikely and I hope to god it doesn’t happen. Imagine the hagiography that would surround the piece of shit were that to happen.

  • @happydoors@lemm.ee
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    He certainly has a lot of enemies but I don’t think it’s likely with his upped security being President again. I still can’t believe we were an inch short of a Trump free world…

    • @filcuk@lemmy.zip
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      I don’t know that would solve everything anyway. Worst case, he’d become some kind of martyr.

      • @DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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        I’d take that chance.

        He’s a cult leader. Cults tend to collapse after the cult leader dies. It was so close to the election I don’t think there would have been enough support for another Republican to win in the chaos that would have ensued within the Republican party.

        It almost certainly would have resulted in a better future.

        Kid shouldn’t have aimed for the head. Harder to hit and nothing there anyway.

      • @Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee
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        Back then I don’t know who could have picked up the reins and taken over.

        Vance didn’t have the following he has now.

        Ramaswamy wasn’t white enough (I don’t think it’s possible for the right or center to vote non-white-male for president.)

        Nikki wouldn’t have worked either, she couldn’t be dumpy and she also didn’t have a penis.

        So it’s hard to say. I think the magat mentality is here to stay regardless of if dumpy is around, but the absolute control of the party probably wouldn’t survive him.

        • @CalipherJones@lemmy.world
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          The magat mentality is the same mentality from southern slaveowners. The secessionists were given free reign to join back into society without serious repercussions and their ideas lived on with them.

      • @Jax@sh.itjust.works
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        In fact, I think that if he were to die right now he would be immediately elevated to martyrdom - that being the catalyst for martial law.

      • @ameancow@lemmy.world
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        Worst case, he’d become some kind of martyr.

        I used to think this also, but after really looking at the current situation, I don’t think it would last more than a news-cycle. It would be the biggest, hugest deal for Conservatives maybe ever, they would scream and cry and performatively act like Jesus was nailed up a second time, but then immediately pivot the emotional momentum to a new candidate to seize power with.

        The reason why is because when JFK was assassinated, the whole country loved him. The only people who love Trump are the nation’s stupidest and most brainless, zero attention span, zero actual values. They would act like it’s a martyrdom incident but get completely distracted a week later by some other political power trying to capitalize on the power vacuum.

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    I think by the time we hit 2026 there will be tens of millions who voted MAGA who wish that last year’s attempt would have succeeded, but logistically, it’s basically impossible now. Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that’s just very unlikely.

    It’s also debatable whether it would even be a good thing. Political assassinations always have ramifications that weren’t planned for, but on the other hand, Trump is basically a cult leader and cults always shrivel a bit when the leader passes on.

    • @Firipu@startrek.website
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      Except for the assassination of Abe, which was a resounding success by any measure. The perp got everything he wanted and more.

      • @SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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        President Garfield also got merked. Mostly the fault of an RFK-grade doctor than the actual shooter, though. I hope we get that for Trump - he deserves to die at the paws of his own incompetent administration.

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      Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that’s just very unlikely.

      Hard disagree, Ukraine takes consumer drones and turns them into pinpoint bombers or ultra fast suicide drones. They are VERY effective.

      IMO the only reason political violence hasn’t been more common is people afraid of losing what they have. But they’re soon to lose it anyway.

    • @KiwiHuman@lemm.ee
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      Ok this might be my new favourite conspiracy

      Our universe is a simulation created by a group of facists that are using us to research how they can gain and maintain power. If a successful fascist regime takes hold then the experiment will be over and the simulation will be shut off, the only way to survive is to continue to fend off fascisum.

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    I’ll be honest, seeing this sudden shift to openness talking about this when knowing how controlled the narrative is even here, makes me think this might actually be part of the narrative they’re now trying to push.

    I could definitely be wrong about that, but I’ve seen this brought up here a few times and even last night there was an AskReddit about what Americans would feel is the final straw to have Trump removed from power.

    I actually was talking about this in a post a few days ago. If Vance suddenly succeeded Trump as president, it would not fix anything, and it would likely make things much worse

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    If he keeps pissing off China, maybe.

    The left takes more of a peaceful protest and hope for midterms approach.