The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

Just when I feel like dystopian news can’t really disturb me anymore…

Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all…

How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target’s family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

  • @carlossurf@lemmy.ca
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    Jesus they killed everyone in the apartment complex including their kids how is this not a war crime?!?

  • @mhague@lemmy.world
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    They are flying jets, using drones, and even small explosives. The homes of these scientists were severely damaged. The richest countries of the world are backing Israel.

    Is this just Israel putting out propaganda? These scientists thought they were safe at home. Sinister! Super secret weapon that blows up apartment buildings. Sounds revolutionary!

    • @ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world
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      As usual this is teenage boy logic. They are posing with their guns as recruitment propaganda. No it’s a super secret magic cool gun from god you haven’t even heard of it because it’s so futuristic and we’re cool so not at all evil, right

  • @BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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    692 days ago

    I have always been amazed that countries are allowed to get away with this. You would expect that a country that does this would have their leadership rounded up by an international strike force instantly and hauled to Hague.

  • @Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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    This is state sanctioned mass murder. This is state terror attacks across a national border. This is so unethical and obviously illegal, I don’t know what else to say about it.

    We need to distance ourselves from Israel. We need to stop giving them weapons. Right now, the taxes I pay go partially to arming them, I am partially responsible, and this is not “ok”. I do not want to be doing this, I never wanted this…

    • 52fighters
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      02 days ago

      Just to play devils advocate, what circumstances is it legitimate for Israel to attack Iran?

      • @Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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        62 days ago

        Yeah, that’s cool.

        Well I guess my opinion is that it’s essentially never “legitimate” to be the aggressor. Determining which party is the aggressor can sometimes be complicated, but it often boils down to this: which party is crossing the border?

        In this case, I’m sure many would say that Iran took the first aggressive action by pursuing a nuclear program, but I have a few issues with that. First, Israel already has nuclear weapons, so surely that is an earlier provocation. Secondly, Iran still isn’t crossing the border, Israel was first to pull the trigger, and they pulled a lot of triggers (in Iranian territory). And finally, Israel and Iran have been in the process of forging nuclear treaties many times now, and nearly every time Israel has sabotaged the talks with provocative, often military actions, or they simply left the table - it seems clear to me that Israel does not want a nuclear deal, they will not accept any kind of compromise.

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          If that’s your metric, then I think Israel meets it. Iran has sponsored and directed non-state actors in Israel. These include both Hamas and Hezbollah. Additionally, Houthi militants have targeted Israeli civilian shipping.

          • @LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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            So Israel subjugates, kicks people from their homes, and guns them down en mass at peaceful protests for years. Then Hamas lashes back out in what we call a terrorist attack. Then Israel uses it as a reason to further their subjugation and commit genocide. The Houthis say they will shoot at any countrys ships who is trading with Israel unless they stop their massacre. And you’re saying that it would have been a better response for Iran to just bomb Israel without notice. Maybe you’re right. Most of the world should have done something to stop what Israel was doing, but most of it was about putting pressure on the U.S. to say this isn’t worth us spending money on, and convince us to tell Israel to stop or we’d cut aid and sanction them. If Iran attacked in defense of the Palestinians, Israel would once again have made it out that they were somehow the victim. They aren’t. The only reason the “2 state solution” never came to be is because Israel made sure it would never happen.

          • @ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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            If a state is to be held accountable for non-state actors then I do not believe Israel or the United States has any moral high ground whatsoever. Even less than if we strictly limit the scope to only state actions.

    • Basic GlitchOP
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      Right now, the taxes I pay go partially to arming them,

      And we are giving millions in contracts to Palantir to help them create these nightmare AI projects with zero oversight.

      Alex Karp’s biography makes it pretty clear he’s trying to spin this shit as every American’s patriotic duty to support, and no different than the Manhattan project (as if that’s something great to aspire to in the first fucking place) during WWII.

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      state terror

      Yeah, the ‘protocols of the elders of zion’ larpers dont do anything else

      need to stop

      I think it’s a few years late for purely negative action to be useful here.

      We let this get too far out of hand. The question is: glass some LARPers, or world war 3? If the former is not on the table, the latter is inevitable.

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        I think it’s a few years late for purely negative action to be useful here.

        I actually disagree with that. If we end the flow of weapons and funding to Israel, we’d see a totally different behavior from Israel within the week.

        The question is: glass some LARPers, or world war 3? If the former is not on the table, the latter is inevitable.

        And this part, you’re saying nuke them or else WW3? That rhetoric is as bad as theirs! If you can’t think of any other solutions, then please, don’t be part of the solution.

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    Anyone who gets uncomfortable with government surveillance because it could be used to target certain demographics of people needs to look no further than what Israel has done to prove their point.

    The only thing stopping the world from autonomously targeting people by online demographic is common human decency, and humanity is running on very short supply of that these days.

    • @rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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      But that is their dream for the future. Purely automatically managing the populace as some sort of a farm.

      It’s an arms race. Like at any other point in history. Between those who think personal dignity and freedom and equality are a mistake of history or a device to keep the herd patient, and that they deserve to rule, and those who don’t.

      The good part is that this has already been tried. A fast system with deadlocks is not that different from a slow system with deadlocks. And a big redundant system deterministically degrading in itself is not that different from a smaller less redundant system deterministically degrading in itself. No USSR and no Nazi Germany anymore on the map.

      The parts about lying and false pretense of law and democracy are new, but not too much - rulers of Frederic the Great’s time had false pretenses of knightly behavior and following imperial mechanisms. One can even compare 30 years war to our two world wars in the sense of creating a new world order, which was considered impossible to change due to endless horrors following that, but eventually become a farce.

  • @WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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    What is to stop the ultra wealthy from simply each making a million of these AI commanded drones, and just…killing all the poor? ALL of them? ALL OF US?!

    • @BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world
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      Then who would they lord over and whose hard work would they make their money off of, on the other hand using these threats to bring back slavery feels like the scarier future to me

      • @michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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        We in the USA are telling farmers that they won’t deport their labor if they are accountable to them. They can very easily have those who defect or resist in any way deported to concentration camps. They can also be imprisoned for trying to slip over the border the other way.

    • @Doomsider@lemmy.world
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      Pretty much this and the answer is nothing. This is the world we have created where people are murdered just because. We are the ultimate terrorist.

    • @rozodru@lemmy.world
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      because the ultra wealthy can’t cook, can’t produce the stuff needed to cook, can’t build super cars or private jets or build mansions, they can’t make the latest high tech gadgets, they can’t produce the most stylish of clothes or expensive watches. That’s why they keep us around. They need us plebs to make them stuff and produce their wealth to purchase the shit we make.

    • @Shardikprime@lemmy.world
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      Are you just like that by default or are you just missing your daily pills?

      Maybe stop projecting your inner traumas towards the world, and get help. Can’t be possible to live a healthy life with that mindset

    • Jolteon
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      Because drones are expensive, and it would be a waste of money to use them on poor people.

    • Curious Canid
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      The ratio of poor to ultra wealthy is far greater than a million to one. Other than that, the only practical reason they have for not doing it is that they still need human labor for most of what they do. That isn’t going to change anytime soon, despite AI. However, they don’t need their labor force to be free or happy, which is why the US is on the cusp of a fascist takeover.

      The rule of law has largely stopped mattering to the ultra wealthy. It may occasionally inconvenience them, but they know it will never affect them in any personal way.

      Not all of the ultra wealthy are socipaths. Unfortunately, terminal-stage capitalism does a surprisingly good job of selecting for sociopathy at the very top of the hierarchy. Becoming that rich requires both a strong belief that you deserve it and a disregard for how acquiring it harms others.

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        One weird thing I noticed is the children inheriting the welth also tend to be psycho. Perhaps having everything you need destroys empathy?

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          That is a good point. I think you’re right that being raised in an entitled environment by a socipathic parent brings out the worst in people. It also selects for the worst child being the one who wins the fight to take over the business.

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          Yeah that’s why collectivists worldwide always strive to think for you what you need, and taking the standard of living to the lowest possible level, that’s way no one can have have what they need, except obviously the ones in power, ideologically speaking

    • @michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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      Why would anyone do this? Why wouldn’t the normal legal process supported by all the rest of the rich bozos stop the one Uber rich psycho.

      Why would anyone not notice a million terminators being made before they were unleashed?

    • Avid Amoeba
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      The rich are only rich because the money they possess can be exchanged directly or indirectly for people’s labour. Without it, the money is valueless and the rich cease to be. It’s also one reason why labour strikes are so effective and the rich have had to create militias to prevent them.

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    Think about this when you see politicians trying to pass absurd laws like banning all regulation of AI. AI is a cover to remove any last semblance of accountability for atrocious and illegal activities

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      Exactly. There need to be rules that make people responsible for decisions made by software.

    • @Hackworth@sh.itjust.works
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      Politicians attempting to ban AI regulation are only shielding OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, etc. Those same politicians will pearl clutch about Hugging Face or DeepSeek in the same breath. It’s just about money and the arms race. Abdicating responsibility to AI would require either a change in how we regulate people or a granting of rights/responsibility to AI. Though I don’t doubt we will see people try to blame AI for their poor decisions.

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    Murdered. Not killed, murdered.

    Both technically true, but the way they write killed suggests it wasn’t murder in cold blood, an act of war against another country to bully and control them.

    Murder.