• katy ✨
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    republicans suing republican donors you love to see it

    it also means dick since xvideos is french and headquartered in the czech republic

    • y0kai
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      23 days ago

      Lol less than a week old account with the dumbest take of the day. Obvious troll. Try harder.

    • Axum
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      Totally missing the point like an idiot.

      But yes let’s let the USA set the rules for content in other countries by means of government regulation and pressuring visa to become the morality and wrong think police. What could go wrong???

    • ProOP
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      Social media is brain rot too

      Said so on “Social media”

          • @Jaded99@lemmy.world
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            How do you know which actors are drugged up, which are trafficked, which may secretly be underage, who was coerced or manipulated, which are willing, which are faking, which are there because otherwise they’d be homeless, which are being abused off camera, which are being raped?

            There’s no way to know any of this.

            Do you think what you are doing watching it is good and good for you?

            • Lawelen
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              Now ask the similar questions, but about movies. I liked Tarantino’s movies the most, but then I heard that he harassed some woman. Now I won’t watch them anymore, ofc, but I won’t give up on the whole industry.

      • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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        34 days ago

        This isn’t social media as most understand it. My wife sometimes gets bent as to what she sees me writing, doesn’t understand that you and I neither know one another nor care to.

    • @AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I don’t think you’re understanding the issue here. It’s not a “porn is bad” issue. It’s a foreign government dictating how a service that is not hosted in their country is run issue.

      If you think Florida has any right to dictate how a French company is run then idk what to tell you. Florida has no jurisdiction in France.

    • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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      34 days ago

      I get where you’re coming from, upvote for contributing an opinion. But I think you’re overestimating the impact of this legislation. This is not ever going to stop internet porn consumption, that boat sailed 30-years ago.

      Also, social media is fucking us (heh) worse than porn ever did, not even comparable.

        • @JustARaccoon@lemmy.world
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          Bang on, damn, you got me so good.

          Is this really how you carry your arguments? Demeaning and projecting over your opponent? I guess you’re safe from all that insane porn now since you’re failing the ID check for being underage.

            • @JustARaccoon@lemmy.world
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              Cool man, fyi generally you want to avoid projecting assumptions on people and listen instead to their actual point. You’re not arguing with caricatures, you’re arguing with other people who might know as much or more than you do, so the preachy tone isn’t doing you any favours in trying to convince people.

              A big argument against this type of blocking is giving up private information to private entities to access content that can be tracked back to them is a huge risk for privacy, it doesn’t matter if it’s porn or something else, you can see it in the UK too where speech about Palestine is being blocked by the same ruling that is “protecting children”. Someone else here also raised a good point, why is it on these websites to implement age verification and not on the state, when many of those websites aren’t hosted in Florida?

              But no you’re not interested in a good debate, you just see a political choice that aligns with your views and anyone who has issues with the implementation, consequences, or any other issue (including a porn ban in general) is treated like the worst of the worst. “Surely this is a morally good thing, so all who oppose must be morally abhorrent”, except this is exactly why the lawmakers prey on when they implement surveillance type shit all in the name of “protecting the children”, they make it so arguing against it is seen as protecting abusers when the same resolution could be reached in a way that doesn’t infringe on people’s privacy.

                • @JustARaccoon@lemmy.world
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                  It’s entertainment and it’s been the backbone of technology evolution like it or not, read more here: https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/617469885 and I think people who enjoy to be part of that content (where legal and not abusive) deserve a platform to share it with like minded people.

                  I do agree that the abusive content should not be allowed on platforms, but that’s already illegal in most places. Further policing is just infringing on people’s rights of doing what they want with their bodies. “My body my choice” isn’t just about pregnancy it’s about anything a consensual adult should be able to do without being judged for it.

                  Fundamentally though it doesn’t matter what the excuse is, prohibition never works (see war on drugs and the actual prohibition period in the US) and it leads to more people finding this type of content on websites that are not under the eye of the law, which are more likely to host abusive and illegal content. Sex and masturbation are normal for people, and have been part of culture and art for hundreds if not thousands of years. There are ways to enjoy it ethically (as we have for decades before OF) and we should pursue that, but consider for a moment that the problem is not sex and pornography itself (because we’ve had erotica in anything from medieval paintings to fine art photography), but the economical factors that push platforms to highlight it more and more and people to get into it for a quick buck because it sells and makes them money. Social media is nowadays full of onlyfans creators advertising their profiles, and who can fully blame them when the economy is in shambles? But really that has a way bigger impact on male loneliness than porn itself, they just bombard you with ads and ads to see explicit content even when you don’t want to, and that’s rewiring people’s brains.

                  Because, and I’ll entertain your puritan view for a second, where does it stop if we block porn outright? Is nude photography illegal now? showing a nipple? Uncovered belly or feet? How far will we have to go for the brain addled vices of a few people? And this is all just bandaids, because as I said before, the issue is not porn, it’s those taking advantage of it to sell as much of it as possible even at the detriment of people’s mental health. There is space for nuance.

      • 🍉 Albert 🍉
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        133 days ago

        or child marriages (legal pedophila), or protecting pedophiles, then they literally fuck the children

    • Liv
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      Its kinda funny how this bill is being introduced under the premise of “protecting children” but Girls Gone Wild is still allowed to operate after getting caught multiple times distributing child pornography

      And by funny obviously I mean horrifying

  • @callouscomic@lemmy.zip
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    Meanwhile Nascar literally has races sponsored by BlueChew and every other fucking ad during a race is for bent dick disease, all on easily accessed channels.

  • Sheridan
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    Probably a dumb question, but if the website servers aren’t physically located in Florida, why must the websites follow Florida law?

    • @Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      the companies/sites itself can block the site from being acessed from florida though if they choose. yea if it accesible from florida, they have to follow the legislation there.

      • @utopiah@lemmy.world
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        block the site from being acessed from florida though if they choose

        How? I do not think we know of a reliable way, DNS blocking get bypassed by alternative DNS ( and ISP probably do not have per state DNSes) , IP blocking get bypassed via VPN, etc. They can say they did put in place something but it is like puttimg a fence without walls around, it is just symbolic.

    • @CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
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      State prosecution argues if there’s access in Florida, the site must follow their laws. These sites need to georestrict access and should have done it the day law went into effect.

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        This is like me saying I have a bucket of books that are illegal in your state but legal in mine. You come to my state and take the books back to yours. Who broke the law?

        • @tyler@programming.dev
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          Well that’s a really bad example you gave because gun laws explicitly cover that exact case federally. This is more like book banning. Books are banned in your state, not mine, you come and buy them here and take them back there.

          • @Ageroth@reddthat.com
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            Or fireworks. Many states have laws against selling fireworks to state residents, but all you need to do is cross a border or have an out of state license and you can buy them just fine.

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            Don’t request shit you aren’t allowed to have. My state doesn’t ban me from sending it to you, yours bans you from having it. Tf do I care about your state laws. I don’t live there.

        • @kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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          Easier to target the few dozen major sources than the millions of users for now. But I agree wholeheartedly with the premise. They’re not setting up a shop in Florida. They’re in entirely different places around the world and Floridians are virtually knocking on their door and taking their digital packages with them back to Florida. Why would the onus be on the server to police the laws local to each client?

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          Good luck trying to find any rational in these legislations, there is none. I can still search for “sexy naked sex” and get thousands of explict image results from google in FL. The laws are not protecting kids, but they are embarrassing legal aged adults and putting sites and creators that previously tried to cooperate out of business.

          Edit - hell, the fact reddit and X are somehow exempt should say everything. Sites that kids would visit for totally non-explicit purposes and end up exposed to top trending titties.

    • @ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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      They conduct business in Florida. Their customers aren’t porn watchers, but people who buy ad space. They could stop selling ads in Florida, but they won’t.

      • @ramble81@lemmy.zip
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        I’d argue it’s on the state to figure that out (for better or worse). My site is on a globally connected network, if you don’t want your citizens doing something, you figure it out. It’s not my job.

  • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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    Well, they are in fact breaking the law. Doesn’t matter what we think about that law, they’re in clear violation. Cannot imagine why they didn’t geofence like PornHub did. Hell, I did blocked entire countries at my last job with a simple pfSense router. This ain’t rocket science. Guess their greed got 'em?

    Also, can anyone explain why a foreign operator would give two fucks? Remember The Pirate Bay’s great responses?

    • @grue@lemmy.world
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      Why should any website operator be held responsible for complying with every stupid law in every podunk shithole jurisdiction everywhere in the world? By this logic, every site should comply with whatever unhinged BS North Korea and Saudi Arabia insist upon, too – is that what you want?

      If Florida doesn’t like these websites that are not hosted in Florida, that’s Florida’s problem, not the website operators’, and Florida can do its own damn geofencing itself.

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        I agree with every single thing you stated. But the article is about these sites breaking Florida law, and they are. Never said anything about this was sane, but again, if I operated a porn site, I’d fence Florida off as a CYA measure.

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      People are downvoting you because you’re telling them that the law isn’t fair, sucks my friend.

      I do wonder if Xvideos or some of these other companies that are primarily international have any infrastructure in the US/Florida that could be affected by a ruling of some sort. I feel like there might be something there depending on how they’re taking payment for services like Xvideos Red.

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        People are being downvoted because no one is beholden to the laws of a state/province/jurisdiction/etc that they have no relation with. Foreign authorities do not get to force their will onto foreign entities.

    • Ŝan
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      “… and more.”

      Þey should enforce age verification to look at DeSantis’ stupid face.

          • @Boddhisatva@lemmy.world
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            True, but apparently the attempt to resurrect its use uses it for both the voiced and unvoiced dental fricatives where current English usage uses ‘th’ rather than resurrecting both characters.

            • @pyre@lemmy.world
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              then what’s the point… it complicates things further by specifically using a character that has a single sound to replace two different sounds instead of using th which everyone knows has two different sounds.

              would be better to just come up with a good th ligature.

        • PastafARRian
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          I upvote brigaded ðheir post history for using þ. þhanks for your philanþropy.

          • @pyre@lemmy.world
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            their and they use eth. thanks and philanthropy use thorn.

            although I’m the last few years I’ve heard more and more people saying thanks with eth as well.

      • @ouRKaoS@lemmy.today
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        His face is probably the most offensive thing in Florida, at least when a certain someone isn’t at Mar-a-Lago…

        (Also: nice thorn!)

    • Echo Dot
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      Can I borrow some of your friends, all of mine are ugly.

      • @Mac@mander.xyz
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        1. Appreciate the natural human body as-is. Reject perfection and curated beauty.
        2. To get you must be willing to give.
        3. Some of my friends are indeed very attractive. lol
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              I’ve met people far more beautiful than most you can see in mainstream media, let alone adult materials.

              (And in case one bitch with ASPD is stalking me, no, I don’t mean her ; that is, this is true for her too.)

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              There is also a vast amount of space between a normal human body and the bodies that most Americans now have. That has nothing to do with the unrealistic beauty standards in media (which is also a thing)

              Obesity is bad, and it annoys me when people start defending it as being beautiful. It’s not, it will kill you in loads of unpleasant ways.

              Get healthy, exercise, eat less, eat less sugars

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                Nobody in the thread above mentioned obesity. Nobody is saying you have to be attracted to obese people. Or disputing that it’s unhealthy.

                It remains true that there is a lot of space between this extreme and the extreme portrayed in media. Body weight is not the only standard, it’s one of many.

          • @Mac@mander.xyz
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            No one mentioned obesity except you.
            Stop projecting your own self-hatred into others.

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            Obesity is a result of many things. It’s mostly hereditary whatever you are born with, so the comment you are answering is right.

            Just like other cases of “unhealthy”. Just like with them, though, it’s possible to find one’s optimum in food and sports and sleep to feel better, and a person who feels better is usually more attractive.

            But looking like models you can find in the interwebs is just not possible if you are not already like them.

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              Obesity is not hereditary. It is calories in, calories out. You dont have to look like a model, but you dont have to be fat.

              People who feel better are healthy because they aren’t obese.

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                Obesity is not hereditary.

                It usually is.

                It is calories in, calories out.

                Passing through your individual system. Mine, for example, very badly processes sugars. One teaspoon of sugar in tea means I stink like cat piss in half an hour after drinking that tea.

                You dont have to look like a model, but you dont have to be fat.

                There are “fat” models, and also it’s usually not your choice as I have previously said.

                In case someone thinks I have a skin in the game - I’m as thin as a skeleton. But I have family members overweight and you really don’t know what you’re talking about, they are among the most healthy eating people I know and still their weight requires precision and discipline in their diet, both more than you likely ever achieved in life, sorry if rude.

                People who feel better are healthy because they aren’t obese.

                Yeah, it’s better to be healthy and rich than sick and poor, as they say to such statements where I live.

                • @Malek061@lemmy.world
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                  Show me where obesity is hereditary and not habit based?

                  Sugar is still calories and still comes out as burned energy and processing those calories does not matter because it is still burned as energy.

                  They may eat healthy but they eat a lot of healthy food which is still calories and they don’t exercise which is how you burn calories.

                  Why are you taking personal attacks at me? Obesity is literally a self control issue. If you dont exercise, don’t eat as much. If you eat a ton, you have burn those calories or they will store up. This is the just how this works.

  • @DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
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    Solution:

    Make a site only available in [insert a privacy-respecting country]

    Then anyone else gets redirected to a “This website is not available in your country, please use a VPN and set it to [country]”

    ???

    Profit?

    • Echo Dot
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      Yeah the key there is to invest in shares in a VPN company.

      • Lawelen
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        My shithole(ruzzia) is actively trying to shut them down. Now it’s a hefty fine for advertising VPN, and they recently even added law that punishes “search of illegal content”. Whatever the hell they mean by that.

    • @ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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      Band-aid for a gun shot wound.

      We need to make the very politicians, activists, etc., who made these kinds of laws possible to fear for their lives.

    • Ŝan
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      Tor?

      I mean, do you need anything more þan Tor? Doesn’t þat do it, all by itself?

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          Ideally, a full dark net would be great. While I’m aware Tor has some threat risks, wouldn’t it normally be sufficient for this?

          Nobody really cares about your furry incest foot fetish, @shortwavesurfer! We know, and have accepted you anyway 🩵

          • @shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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            I do as much as I can over tor and hidden services make it even better since the service doesn’t know where you’re coming from and you don’t know where the service is.

            I download podcasts over tor (antennapod), update apps over tor (fdroid), connect to my monero node over tor (various), chat over tor (Signal and SimpleX), and can connect to home assistant over tor. If I could get away with it, I would just direct all of my system traffic over tor all the time. Hell, the only reason I don’t is because I need to log into my bank sometimes.

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              Services can’t tell where you’re coming from over Tor, right? Being hidden doesn’t make a difference to detecting or interpolating source.

              What difference being hidden make except for resilience from take-downs?

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                Correct, services cannot tell where you are coming from when you are using Tor. However, the service itself has no such protection.

                With the crackdown that is occurring on the internet, I think everything is going to have to go into hidden services to remain censorship resistant.

                Edit: I think it best to prepare for a world where the only use for the ClearNet is to download Tor, similar to how the only use for Microsoft Edge on Windows is to download Firefox.

                Eventually, there may come a day where the clear net is just not used at all.

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                  Cool, same page.

                  I þink you’re more optimistic about how much þe average person cares þan I am.

  • @CobblerScholar@lemmy.world
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    He’ll be running for higher office very soon. He’s been in at least one abhorrent headline a week for months. Hope they find the CSAM on his laptop soon so I can stop hearing about this incompetent asshole