Wherever I go, I often see the sentiment “This website has ads, so it’s trash” pop up in conversations. And honestly I don’t quite get why. 90% of the internet has always had ads, you just scroll past them and mind your business. At least they’re personalized now so you can pick a topic you like instead of diapers and miscellanous spammy trash as there once were.
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Many people have become accustomed to life without ads. I have used adblockers in my browsers for probably the past 20 years. So the experience that you are talking about (just scrolling past them), is an experience that I don’t really know, unless I am suddenly using some other computer that belongs to a friend or something.
People have also gotten away from ads in their entertainment by subscribing to things like Netflix rather than cable.
Once you don’t have advertising shoved in your face 24/7, then suddenly being bombarded with it is incredibly offensive.
Uh if you’re not an idiot you’re already using ublock origin, sponsorblock, pihole, and the like.
theres a good part in Ready Player One (movie) where the ceo guy is showing how many more ads they can cram imto your field of view and you can still see. Was like 60 or 80% of the visual area. Unfortunately that example is how most advertising heads think. Just cram more and more ads on screen makimg the thing you are trying to do impossible or unusable
Hey, found a YT clip, it was 80% of an individuals visual field before inducing seizures! How exciting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpPE85JogjwAdvertising is a huge waste of societal resources.
Think about it: what’s the actual point of advertising, from the consumer’s point of view? I would argue it’s to get notified of available products, and why you might want that product.
But that’s not what advertising does 99% of the time, now. Advertising now is a collection of products that you already know exist, have probably already looked at, but now you’re getting spammed. Because they aren’t trying to educate you as a consumer - they’re trying to use exposure to trick you into buying their particular product instead of someone else’s identical product.
If you look at the total GDP that goes to advertising, it’s frankly insane. It’s lost 20%. Add finance into that, and most of our GDP is centered around meta-economics rather than stuff people want/need/will use.
they’re trying to use exposure to trick you into buying their particular product instead of someone else’s identical product.
That’s probably the case for a lot of products, but I don’t agree with your generalization that advertising offers nothing to the consumer and is presumably a drain on the economy.
I run a small business and see noticeable returns on advertising dollars spent vs not advertising. I run a services business and advertising makes it easier for clients to find us and makes me more money that I put back into the economy by buying lavish things like food and rent. I hate advertising and wish I didn’t have to pay Google or use social media to promote our “brand”, but the truth is I do in order to stay competitive.
The advertising I’m buying isn’t tricking or spamming anybody, it’s targeted to people that are looking for that kind of service in my area and it doesn’t misrepresent our work in any way. What it does do is get my foot through the door and increases the likelihood of them reaching out to us over the schmucks down the street that offer a similar service, but are not as good as us in terms of value, customer service and quality of work. There’s value in that for the consumer.
Ads have gotten worse and worse overtime. Some websites are so stuffed with ads the performance of the website suffers. Then there are risks associated with ads when many have become malicious or used to track people. Then what is advertised can also be extremely questionable. Everything from useless products to addictive mobile games to harmful “health” products to crypto scams show up on ads.
I’m fine with some ads on free websites/service if they’re not crazy but too many sites have gone nuts. I’m not ok with ads with paid services. Ads during shows/movies are a no go when I paid for them.
No the internet has had ads during your lifetime but older people know exactly how it was before. :)
There may have always been sites with ads, but they didn’t always track and profile you behind your back - that’s what’s wrong with online ads, not that there’s something wrong with advertising per se.
At least they’re personalized now
And if they’re personalised then that’s a whole level worse because that means that A: they’ve profiled you and B: they can now be much more effective at influencing you. Don’t buy the story that any of that is for your benefit.
My personal take is that people start understanding the negative impact unhinged marketing can have on your well-being. Ironically, while following influencers and having their happiness and worldviews happily influenced by social media.
You can’t scroll some of the ads, that’s one of the problems.
There are video ads that remain on the bottom of the page regardless of what you do. Same for image ads.
I’m trying to read an article and there is distracting ads all over the page.
Ads back in 90s were subtle, I have zero problems with textual google ads in the article but videos and images that is also slowing down my experience with its large downloads?
Sites are like loading 10m of content for a 2kb text article. Come on.
For most people it isn’t the ads, it’s the way ads are implemented. They harvest insane amounts of data to track and identify you. Then the ads in social media are inserted deceptively, or you get popups that deliberately make it difficult to dismiss them, or you’re trying to read an article but there’s an ad between evwry sentence. Most people would be ok with small, non deceptive ads that didn’t require you to sogn away your entire life to target them to you, but most ads these days are not that.
I feel many people are so privileged on both sides of politics that they have nothing better to do than to create their own problems.
Wait until you learn that there aren’t just two sides in politics.
Even in European countries there are two dominant parties that work with others on their side of the aisle. In fact the concept of a left and right comes from France.
Polarization is universal in politics at the scales or democracy.
Ads are the epitome of the enshitification of the internet. It corrupts the incentives to make anything online.
At least they’re personalized now
This is a whole other can of worms that makes it so much worse. From data harvesting to selling your information to third parties etc… It is a privacy nightmare and rather malicious in nature. This is one of the things that FOSS (Free and open-source software) tries to remedy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq7NLMwynYg
Semi related, but here is a funny video about ads. It wouldn’t surprise me if this video had ads on it. I’d recommend an ad blocker.
Because I can’t go two minutes without someone trying to sell me something, and it’s infuriating. I can’t even browse Lemmy without someone spamming my feed with their shitty Lets Play videos, or some random selfhosted project posted by the company who made it.
It’s disingenuine, and is to me one of the single largest reasons I’ve switched over to decentralized platforms.
90% of internet has always had ads
And we were content to be back when it was a single banner. But then they started flashing, and crowding the screen, and popups that got so obtrusive they would sometimes spawn forever and crash your PC.
You are almost certainly using a browser with a popup blocker, because advertisers can never just let it be: they need to become more and more obtrusive until they start harming their customers. Protecting yourself from ads is a necessity.
Every modern browser has that built in, and phones actively block most of it. Unless you’re surfing the internet on IE4 or whatever, you are already filtering a good chunk of the dreck, because someone else saw fit to protect you from it.
Yes, the internet has always had ads, and us not being ok with it is why you’re able to browse at all without infinitely spawning popups in front of you.
Also, you realize you’re posting on an ad-free platform?
