Trying to de-google and looking for an alternative to Gmail.
Don’t mind if it’s a paid service if it’s robust.
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Paid Fastmail User here since around half a year. Did extensive research on what provider to use and trialed fastmail for four weeks before buying. I went for a 3 year period. Fastmail has a fantastic set of features.
There are providers that are focused more on privacy (e.g. PGP. encryption, not being based in Australia) but that was not my top priority.
I have created a lengthy guide as part of my transition: I published the Markdown file to Fastmail at this link (it is a text file). As it was initially written just for myself, the format might not be very readable :)
Fastmail
What’s the spam control like with Fastmail? I tend to get quite a bit and Gmail’s been the only half-decent one so far about stopping it from ever reaching the inbox but I’m considering moving from Google Workspace.
@Myro@lemm.ee @sunbeam60@lemmy.one Thanks for the information both of you. I realised my Google Workspace subscription lapses in a week so I’ve signed up for a trial of Fastmail and really liking it so far. 😀
🤜🤛
As my app posted the reply as a top comment, here it is again:
One important thing to take note of is: “Once your personal database has seen more than 200 spam and 200 non-spam emails, we automatically start using it to filter your incoming mail.” This means, before you have received 200 spam emails (or marked them as such), the filter is going to perform significantly worse.
Personally, initially it was pretty bad compared to Gmail. However, it significantly improved over time. One thing that helps are masked emails (fantastic) - an email you can create, or is even created automatically for you, and then enter at dubious websites. If you get spam, you can simply block the whole email or fine tune it.
FastMail user for 7+ years. Their spam filtering is good. I hardly get any and my email address is 20+ years old and have been used in public plenty.
Can you send me that to me too please? Do I have to give you my email?
I published the Markdown file to Fastmail at this link (it is a text file). As it was initially written just for myself, the format might not be very readable :)
Same, or maybe just throw a link up
I published the Markdown file to Fastmail at this link (it is a text file). As it was initially written just for myself, the format might not be very readable :)
me too please
At this point, I think it is safe to post the link.
I published the Markdown file to Fastmail at this link (it is a text file). As it was initially written just for myself, the format might not be very readable :)
One important thing to take note of is: “Once your personal database has seen more than 200 spam and 200 non-spam emails, we automatically start using it to filter your incoming mail.” This means, before you have received 200 spam emails (or marked them as such), the filter is going to perform significantly worse.
Personally, initially it was pretty bad compared to Gmail. However, it significantly improved over time. One thing that helps are masked emails (fantastic) - an email you can create, or is even created automatically for you, and then enter at dubious websites. If you get spam, you can simply block the whole email or fine tune it.
You didn’t specify what email provider you’re talking about lol
He is probably talking about Fastmail since his other comments here are about Fastmail.
Proton is my fav non Google email.
Been steadily moving things over to Proton. Originally got it for the VPN, then eventually started to use it as a replacement for gmail when applicable.
Anything? Carrier pigeon?
migadu.com, it’s a Swiss company with servers in France (great privacy laws). You can host multiple domains and unlimited mailboxes on the same account, which starts at $20/year. They limit on numbers of emails sent/received (200/20/day on the smallest account) and on total account space (5 GB smallest), not on features. You can host multiple domains, multiple mailboxes, multiple aliases, individual login per mailbox, TLS connections, IMAP/SMTP/POP/webmail and all the features you can think of.
mailinabox gives you email, calendar, tasks, and nextcloud apps if you’re willing to setup your own VPS and suffer through some setup, about $10-20/month
If you’re moving your email address consider using a mail alias. If you move again in the future it will make the process a whole lot easier as you won’t need to go to all your sites to update your email address. You only need to update the one email address with the alias provider.
I use simplemail with my own domain
I just set up my own domain for e-mail and I use aliases for signups. Why would I use an alias for my main email if I have my domain? Just trying to figure out if I should be thinking about setting that up
This is what I’m most concerned about with moving away from Gmail. I have literally everything associated with my Google email address and, since almost every website uses email as credentials, it means I’ll have to create new accounts for everything. If I move to a new email, I’m worried if they go belly-up or just flat out close my account then I’ll lose access to everything.
I’ll have to look into using an alias, that would clear up a lot of my concerns.
That’s not called an alias, it’s called owning your own domain name so you can take it with you to any email service.
Email aliases mean something different (giving a website an address like thatwebsite@my.domain instead of realmailboxaddress@my.domain).
Yea i did this with proton and a custom domain. Alias freedom!
Another bump for Proton. My wife and I share an account with a few different addresses each going to their own folder. (One for me, one for her, one for shopping, one for spam, etc) Their VPN is great too and includes ad/tracker blocking.
You can always pay for your own mailserver. I personally like it that people can reach me a hello@firstnamelastname.de. Maybe it is something for you?
I’ve had something like that for a decade and a half now.
In fact the basic e-mail service came free with just getting a domain name (though I pay extra to get IMAP rather that just POP3 access for my mail client plus pretty much infinite storage).
Works in any e-mail client and also has a web client.
Notice that I don’t even need to have a hosting account (so it’s not hosting for a website), much less a full VPS (which I would have to manage myself): all I’m paying for is the domain name and a little extra for more storage and full e-mail protocol support beyond the basic tier.
I think there have been maybe 2 or 3 outtages in the entire decade and half I’ve had it.
Whilst I could do my own thing and manage it, this solution is pretty much the level of complexity of using Google Mail (I have more important things to spend my time on than manage a mailserver) with infinitelly more privacy and running 100% on open protocols (so I can move it to a different provider if I want).
Do you actually host your own mail? Because everyone tells me not to do that, it’s too much of a hassle and that there are mail services where I can use my own domain.
I used to host my own mail server. Getting it up and running with iredmail wasn’t too difficult, but maintaining all of the different components and setting up spam filters and autodiscover and stuff like that is an absolute nightmare.
I just use proton mail. I can point my dns to them, and they do everything else for me.
Only downside is that they don’t expose pop3 or imap, so you have to either use their app, or set up their bridge and host that locally.
If you just buy the office 365 service through a domain provider its as simple as a few clicks. Namecheap charges me $6 a year for my domain and $5 a month for an Office 365 mailbox with 5 users. It was a few clicks and it was set up, and I can log into the Office interface to manage the accounts. If you are running your own SMTP server from your home, yes, it can be extra steps. But that’s just silly if you can afford a cloud hosted email.
But then it’s all Microsoft-y…
5 users is not enough for my family, and they don’t offer additional users.
Proton Mail
Protonmail but i prefer Tutanota made in Germany 100 % Privacy :D
Proton is too slow with updates usw
If I recall correctly, Proton is made in Switzerland. It’s not the EU, but at least it’s not the US either
I know :D However, the people of Proton take on too much instead of focusing on what is necessary.
I agree.
I have been using Hey for two years now and I like it a lot. Less about privacy and more about, “I don’t want all this junk mail and advertising”
Tutanota’s pretty cool.
I’ve been really appreciating Fastmail. It’s paid, but I was finally able to leave Gmail behind
Same here, I love how pretty and useful Fastmail is.
