• @Empricorn@feddit.nl
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    Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Bad is the enemy of good, and right-wingers are bad.

  • @xor@infosec.pub
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    the strawman is “vote blue no matter who”

    no, it’s vote blue whenever “red” is a literal dictator, who promises to be a dictator when elected, who tried a coup once already, who leads a fascist gop splinter group…
    vote any fucking color against that shit, not no matter who.
    there’s bad, and there’s barely distinguishable from hitler bad…
    stop lying

      • @xor@infosec.pub
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        i haven’t seen a single “vote blue no matter who” since hillary…
        yet i keep seeing it over and over again on lemmy, as an intentional misrepresentation of people who just want to stop drumpf…
        well, mostly from hexbeer

  • Snart
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    332 years ago

    Tankies when you don’t want your country to fall into fascism.

    • @_wintermute@lemmy.world
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      Not sure what you mean. Reddit is like ignorant liberal mecca. So many corporate dem supporters there that would much rather engage in (an endless void of culture war nonsense) gender politics than class politics. The liberals that don’t even realize they’re right of center and that being offended for someone doesn’t make them a progressive or a leftist (or even a good person). They also love the aid to Ukraine. Clownshow.

      Edit: looks like lemmy.world is next in line to be ignorant liberal mecca.

  • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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    I forgot how ignorant and self-righteous Reddit liberals were. The ones I’ve seen are easily the loudest and dumbest people on this network of federated instances. They have their “conviction” and “is wrong” sliders completely maxed out.

    • @gowan@reddthat.com
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      Funny I would say the sane about the Marxists here most of whom seem to only be educated through social media/forums and most of whom seem to have no formal education in sociology/anthropology/and most especially economics. The number of times where it becomes clear that a Marxist is arguing from a conclusion is too high to be ignored.

    • Dinodicchellathicc
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      I swear to god I’ll buy sync premium if they give the ability to sort by controversial. This is the stupidest more redditesque thread I’ve run into and i don’t want to miss anymore.

        • @AnomalousBit@programming.dev
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          Since you can’t see the irony in your initial comment, let me spell it out for you in a way you might be able to understand:

          You drone on about maxed convictions while being wrong. But, you’re literally doing the same thing that you whine pointlessly about: your original comment is nothing but a shitty, baseless generalized opinion about a large group of people, with zero substance.

          But you keep fighting the fight, big dog!

          • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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            592 years ago

            Thank you so much for showing me that not every liberal I meet here will be ignorant and self-righteous. I can no longer say that has been the totality of my experience with them. I now have hope that my next encounter will be just as positive as this one was.

          • muddi [he/him]
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            262 years ago

            Is there a base case or do the layers of irony go on to infinity?

            Person: says something

            Another person: this other person has no nuance

            Yet another person: this other person has no nuance, ironically

            Yet another person: this other person has no nuance, ironically

            (ad infinitum)

            Maybe this is just dialectics, although a little snarky

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          62 years ago

          In fairness dumb liberals have a hegemonic control of media, government, culture, and public opinion in the US and most of the EU, with the exception being almost entirely fascists.

          I hate to quote a fascist beast like Patton, but; " “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.”

          We don’t have to go looking for liberal ignorance, violence, cowardice, and foolishness. It’s everywhere in every direction.

        • Gormadt
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          32 years ago

          Woah there, you can’t forget about the Russia/China apologia as well

          • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]
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            Says the natoid lmao

            Two things can actually be bad at once you know. Understanding geo politics doesn’t mean support. The world isn’t a marvel movie.

            • Gormadt
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              32 years ago

              Not only can 2 things be bad but 2 things can be different degrees of bad.

              I’d rather live in a country where I can openly criticize those in power without risk to my personal well-being and have the possibility for pushing my government towards positive ends.

              Yeah there’s some risk associated with protesting in the US but at least I don’t have to worry about the going to the gulag or a tiananmen square situation.

              • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]
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                I mean, I should have known you’d regurgitate the propaganda, but it’s always a disappointment anyway. Such a stupid response, too. That’s basically a non-sequitur. For one, there being two evils does not necessitate siding with the lesser. You can acknowledge there are no good guys, and instead pick the position most likely to lead to the least amount of suffering over all. That is and will always be peace, but you blood thirsty natoids just can’t imagine that. Your response is also dumb as hell given that modern Russia is a capitalist state, not the USSR lmao. Bringing up Gulags is a bit like bringing up slave plantations in the USA… except the USSR is actually completely dissolved so its even less relevant. For the record, the US still legally permits slavery in the instance of criminal conviction. Say, sure would be wild if the US disproportionately policed and convicted black and brown people, wouldn’t it? That’d seem like a loophole legitimizing slavery over time! But that’s just whatabouttism so feel free to ignore it like a good little natoid. You’re grossly ignorant regarding tiananmen square as well, but I won’t bother citing anything since you’ll just dismiss it out of hand.

                Instead, I’ll ask what are your thoughts on the repression of Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street, Ireland Independence, French Yellow Vests/Public Benefits/Police Racism, and so on and so forth in “Free” and “Democratic” countries? What about the United States having the highest incarceration rate in the world, largely filled with black and brown people subjected to forced labor while in prison? What would happen if your “protest” did more than carry signs in publicly designated and permitted areas? Wouldn’t you be beaten, arrested, and convicted under the fullest extent of the law? So sorry that you’re so cucked you can’t imagine doing more than asking your leaders nicely for change and politely going home when they say no, but real protest is certainly illegal in “Free” Western countries, and if you ever actually engaged in it you’d see exactly how brutal those governments can be.

                Principled communists aren’t unapologetic supporters of every single thing socialist countries do/have done, but we take issue with the nakedly hypocritical framing from Western powers. The atomic unit of propaganda is emphasis. You ignorantly reduce entire foreign countries to a single word/event while myopically ignoring the conditions before and after, but hem and haw and whine about nuance and procedure and the necessity of the barbarity around us every day… When you’re not ignoring it outright that is. That’s what makes you a useful idiot to our own system of oppression. It’s an embarrassment.

              • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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                102 years ago

                Snowden, Assange, manning, dozens of maimed protestors and the largest prison system in the world would like a word with you after seeing what you just posted here.

      • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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        Okay just… there’s no such thing as ‘self’ projecting. It’s just projecting. That’s redundant.

        And nothing they said is untrue. What kind of self flagellation is required to just say a type of political person is bad? Do you need permission from a conservative to talk shit about their faults?

    • @socsa@lemmy.ml
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      I’ll take that over believing pig shit memes are reasonable discourse any day.

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    Even im weirded out by how thoroughly the left was suppressed on reddit and other platforms. People on reddit only saw themselves mirrored and thought they were the only ones who existed.

  • @Gnubyte@lemdit.com
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    232 years ago

    Honestly it’s exhausting to the whole lemmy experience that every time something gets even slightly political, there’s an extreme communist in the comments pushing their agenda.

    I can literally say “hey man they all suck yo fuck politics am I right?” And in comes a guy who tells me I’m a Republican or Democrat or fuck America, whatever. I can even agree that the news is biased in America, and I’ll still get the same response.

    It makes conversations for the average consumer on the platform unproductive at best, unsettling in its worst form.

  • Rusty Shackleford
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    The CCP, the RNC, and the DNC are not your friends.

    Vote your conscience. Always remember to see who’s funding who, who will gain, and who will lose. There are better choices than others, even when confronted by only bad choices.

  • @ebenixo@sh.itjust.works
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    Correct. Fake progressives who are in effect right wingers because they vote as a block continually for war and Wal street over working class people. They’re experts at gas lighting as well.