If it’s not too hard to charge the fees it’s not too hard to name them. Period.
Sounds like posturing to add a new fee for being required to list their fees if their weak argument gets thrown out by the FCC.
With ISP what is really need is Local-loop unbundling but extending to ISPs.
Those that are old enough to use DSL in early 2000, might remember there was a lot of ISPs to chose from. The reason for it was that due to Title II telco companies were required to lease lines to their competitors. When cable started to be popular, ISPs lobbied politicians to categorize it under Title I which removed that requirement. We got Internet back to be categorized as Title II, but this specific rule was excluded and this is what is necessary to bring the competition.
Seriously. We’ve even pushed it onto cell providers, which has been great for consumers - yet we let ISPs push laws which make nonprofit community options illegal in many states
We’ve paid for their networks many times over at this point, and yet we still have some of the worst Internet in the developed world
Yeah that’s the most brazen part. They’re more than happy to pull in a dozen set of fees, but cry when they have to clearly list them so people aren’t taken advantage of. This is the type of rubbish that the “free market” produces and why there needs to be some level of government oversight.
“Too hard to list our fees” = “consumers will see how hard we’re fucking them before they sign a contract”
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This is where I am at. Got a phone survey from comcast. Gave them 1 star on every category except how likely am I to continue to use comcast at which point I gave them a 10… because it’s a monopoly and it’s literally the only ISP in my area. I pay 150 dollars for 10mb/5mb service with a 3tb cap. If I go two blocks in any direction I can get 100mb/50mb for 40 bucks with no data cap. Even the exact same plan from comcast 2 blocks away is half the price with 8 times the speed and no cap.
Verizon and T-Mobile have home internet via cellular faster and cheaper than you’re getting.
Check out if Verizon has 5G Hone Internet coverage in your area. It’s $35 a month if you have your phone plan with them, as well. (I do not work for Verizon)
Seriously. Don’t tread on me
Can’t the FCC just tell them they’ll be fined if they don’t comply? Don’t tell them how much they’ll be fined. Let them make their decision, then tell them how much it will cost.
What’s happening here is actually what largely should be happening. The FCC announces that they intend to make some changes, then there’s a period of public comment where anyone including the companies the FCC regulates and their customers can share their opinions, at the end of that period the FCC reviews the comments and can adjust their plans as needed. The reason for this is that the FCC regulates a highly technical field and allowing companies to comment about how a regulation may affect them in ways the FCC may not have thought of helps prevent the FCC from accidentally regulating away future innovations.
In this case the FCC wishes to implement a common sense rule about clearly displaying the full price of the service and the ISPs are saying they don’t like that, so the FCC at the end of the comment period should identify that the ISPs are being silly and implement the rule.
My ISP does it
If you want to make and add all these fees, I think it is only fair that your are required to list them all.
Stop hiding behind your pussy corporate bullshit, and take some responsibility for your money grabbing thoughtlessness.
Customers want to be able to determine who is of best value, and if you advertise $5 a month but add $45 of “fees” then you are just a cunt, and you don’t deserve the business; even if your SUM TOTAL of $50 a month is less than some other ISP that just says its $54 a month and that’s it.
If you are sneaking about and skirting shit like this, we can only assume you are like that at a corporate level, and everything you are doing is dodgy as fuck.
I changed to T-Mobile internet for $30 with my phone plan. I couldn’t be any happier with my choice. Before I had xfinity for $30 and I had 75 down, 25 up, and 1tb data cap. With T-Mobile I get 300 down, 90 up, and no data cap for the same price. It’s perfectly good internet
If it is too hard, I’ll be ok if they just skip it and won’t charge it.
Won’t someone think of the poor downtrodden ISPs!
oh waaaaaaah cry about it >_>
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I can tell your age from the use of that emoticon. I think I like the fediverse.
CEO yacht club fee - 5.99
CEO bonus fee - 10.98
CEO bottle service fee - 2.99Idk doesn’t seem that hard…
Executive layoff bonus
Executive uncompensated mandatory worker overtime bonus…
Why are “fees” above the advertised price? It’s just lying about the price of the service.
Exactly, if it is something that every customer has to pay no matter what, it’s not a fee it’s the cost of the service.
And they have the audacity to claim it is an issue of “making labels too confusing for consumers”.
They could always fold fees into the overall price, but that would be counterproductive to their real goal: lying about the price in advertising.
Billing charge: 4.99
Itemised bill charge: 10.99
Fee listing fee: 7.99
Issue with you bill? Call our hotline (calls charged @ 1.69/minute)
You missed out on an obvious joke, fee fee for your fee fees :p
Call a Waaaahbulance
Oh whah, it’s too haaard! Mom, Dad’s making me do chores! It’s not fair! I don’t want to do chores! Don’t make me come visit him any more!
Dad: I just want him to rinse his plate.
Requiring that providers collect identifying information and document every customer interaction would be highly disruptive to consumers seeking information through alternative sales channels and would impose significant burdens on providers of all sizes
I assure you, if you’ve ever inquiry to prices via third party sales channels, they’ve got your marketing information anyway. This statement is pure bullshit.
The fact that ISPs in the US are not considered utilities and are regulated as such is baffling but kinda on brand
The US’s concept of capitalism is the east india company, standard-oil, robber-baron version of capitalism — corporations should be free to pollute, murder, exploit, enslave, and extract as much value from the working class and planet as physically possible. If you don’t think that’s moral or ethical fuck you; you’re free to die, you filthy socialist!
Feudalism with the illusion of both freedom and choice.
Truth has never been so succinctly put
Bravo my fellow lemming 🙏🏼
Seems easy enough to charge all of them
