Leaked Zoom all-hands: CEO says employees must return to offices because they can’t be as innovative or get to know each other on Zoom::Zoom CEO Eric Yuan discussed the benefits of in-person work in a leaked meeting.
I feel that they might change their logo to snake eating its own tail.
I don’t see anything ironic about this. Zoom is just a tool for making video calls, it’s not even close to being a sufficient replacement for face-to-face interaction with people. A lot of people aren’t motivated to get work done when they are at home by themselves. In isolation you can feel like the work you’re doing is meaningless and not providing any value to anyone. When lockdowns affected my workplace productivity plummeted - we had people ostensibly ‘working from home’ that were answering a few emails here and there and then checking out without having done any actual valuable work at all.
If you hate your job, maybe it’s the work/management/culture that is the problem. WFH isn’t a solution to that, it’s just hiding away from the causes of your misery.
I’m going to choose to believe the CEO is actively trying to tank the share price for some reason. This is approaching get fired or sued by shareholders level.
Golden parachute too nice to pass up.
Either that or a forced reduction in workforce without having to do layoffs.
It’s this. All the tech companies overexpanded during COVID when free investment money was everywhere. Now they’re all over staffed and want employees to self select out of employment rather than announce widespread layoffs. Meanwhile ruining life for everyone who can’t afford to quit.
That and seeing corporate real estate tanking. Its in the best interest of anyone who owns an office space to encourage return to work to try to help prop up the market long enough to exit.
But the “WORK FROM HOME” company should be doing EVERYTHING to encourage the activity that keeps THEM in business. It’s mind-boggling!
According to local news media, small businesses want this return to office because their restaurants are hurting. Doesn’t seem like they would lie about that.
They are not all overstaffed lol, that is total nonsense. Most “tech” companies are not FAANG or flashy startups.
These companies are greedy and trying to prop up real estate value while flexing on their employees, that’s all there is to it. My company is severely understaffed and still refusing to hire people out of sheer greed.
This is what I believe as well.
Companies noticed people like to give up when mistreated so they now bully them into it. Reminder: Soft Quitting is a Reactionary method. People wouldn’t do it at all if they were simply dissatisfied.
Leadership realized they weren’t getting the ego stroke they needed virtually. Time to go back to cube hell so this guy can justify his existence.
Ironic that the CEO of a company producing a product designed for remote online meetings telling their staff that remote online meetings don’t work for his company goals.
Our product sucks, I don’t want my employees using this crap.
It’s purely about control. WFH is cheaper and more efficient.
WFH being taken from folks is just about real estate. Yet another reason why capitalism is gonna kill us all. You know how you get a bunch of cars off of the road? WFH.
There are three other options:
- Good Public Transit
- Somewhat working Public Transit + escooter
- Ebikes
You’re not wrong but all those things require costly infrastructure changes whereas many jobs can be wfh right now with no upfront cost required.
Both would be cool though
Third option does not require new infrastructure even if you don’t have PT. Just make city-wide limit in 30 km/h, then maybe ban cars.
Those things are fine, but don’t negate the problem of pointlessly being required to travel to a pointless office.
I don’t negate, but this also solves how to travel to relatives.
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Capitalism is gonna save us.
Control or real estate. ¿Por qué no los dos?
If you’re in a tech job, working from home should be the default. If you’re in a service job, working on-site is a requirement. This can have a negative impact on a company overall because you may have both in your workforce, and the ability to work from home breeds resentment and impacts morale.
Amidst COVID, our office workers were told to return to work. The reasoning was a perceived inequity held by the field workers toward those that sit at a desk all day. Nevermind that having everyone return up’s everyone’s chance for getting infected. Truth be told, those forced to come in would rather risk that than be left out.
They should turn off the AC too, if anybody has to sweat, everybody should have to sweat.
I hope people demanded an eye-watering raise, citing the inequity in remuneration between the workers and C-suite.
Oh - you don’t care about equity after all? Why do we need to come back again?
They should try using Teams, should solve the problem.
The only problem teams solves is “why are people too happy with remote work”, and it’s very effective at fixing that.
I actually charge a teams tax on my wage requirements if I find out they’re using broken last-gen weak shit like teams, Ansible, or vro.
last-gen weak shit like teams, Ansible, or vro.
A role I worked had this holy trinity. Moving to teams was nail in the coffin for me. Out of interest, what is “broken and last gen” about Ansible? And what’s newer and better than it? I find it to be okay for infra patching tasks…
What’s wrong with Ansible?
I dunno man, that’s what I was trying to find out… I thought I was out of the loop on something here.
Better upgrade them* networks dawg
maybe they should use teams
He’s not wrong, remote meetings do suck for getting to know your coworkers, but that’s not a great reason for rtw
Doesn’t matter what you think, Big techs ceos are laughing their ass off every time their products gets mentioned and reach the frontpage. Purge their ads and remove their visibility
Maybe people can just use a different video calling program if the CEO of the company doesn’t like people using it.
Like what? The technology sub is all about these big tech platforms, can you name some others?
a different video calling program
What happened to Skype? Did it just become the basis of Teams?
I don’t want to ‘get to know’ my coworkers. I’m not there for friendships, or a pseudo family. I’m there to do a job and be paid for it.
But, this might just be my introvert side.
Zoom software inefficient and ineffective. Got it.
Don’t get high on your own supply? I guess?
It seems like the vast majority of people are coming at this from the standpoint of “I know how to do my job, why do I need to be an office”. This may be unpopular but you do it for the new people who need a Lot of company support to get on their feet. I remember starting out and how much easier it was to ask people questions in person over lunch etc. It’s intimidating for a new person to sit in front of a computer and ask random people they’ve never met questions, really amps that imposter syndrome.
