Weird hexbear posting
weird shitlib posting
Weird is when you think we should fight back when we’re losing a class war
They’re probably on the opposite side of you in this war lol
Can all these NIMBYs just pack up and move to Tallahassee already? Seems like they’d be way happier there.
Pretty shitty of GoFundMe to allow that type of collection, too. “Please help us force people to sleep on the streets”.
Yeah, a for profit company that accepts money to keep people on the streets is communism.
Wat
I don’t know. It hurts my brain thinking like a liberal.
I imagine it hurts your brain doing many things
It didn’t hurt when I was doing your mom last night. What are you 7? Can’t dispute the argument so insult the person. Maybe if you read and educated yourself you wouldn’t have to attack random people on the internet.
It’s past your bedtime.
At least I’m awake.
“tokenboomer”, poorly executed references to the “everything is communism” trope, insulting “the liberals”… Come on guy, trolling is a subtle art. You can do better, I believe in you.
That guy’s not trolling. I hit him with a fun note a while ago. He’s everywhere, posting everything. He’s got some weird dumbass views and is a chronically online weirdo.
I am actually trolling, but it’s difficult. Weirdo? Sure. Chronically online? I’m working on it. But I don’t think using humor to try and educate people about the dangers of neoliberalism and how it’s connected to climate change is a dumbass view.
I’ll get better. I’m starting a go fund me to fund my training.
Atta boy/girl/other!
Only you are trying to villainize communism.
Glad it’s not working. That gives me hope.
Years ago I had an interview with GoFundMe and as part of the interview process they wanted me to create a campaign and share it with family and friends. Then they asked for feedback on their website. I told them how disgusting that was to ask of me (I didn’t do it) and never heard back.
That reminds me of an interview I did. It was a partial graphic design/videographer sort of job (my focus is in design). I was looking to break into the field, it was entry level. But the guy interviewing didn’t want to fund or provide any kind of equipment like cameras. He suggested to me that I could crowdfund to get equipment so I could work for him. Seriously, lol. It was entry level pay too. Anyway, I was pretty quick to tell him I wasn’t at all okay with my social circles and family funding things necessary for a new job.
Those rich bastards may have raised 60k, but the city still is fighting and the proles have raised 30k to counter the anti-shelter fundraiser, according to the article. It’s not over yet and the city may still get the desperately needed shelter.
Can we get a list of donor addresses.
They need to wake up everyday for the next decade with a fresh pile of human poo on their door steps.
Let’s find a local car club and arrange a rice burner parade through their neighborhood at 5am every weekend.
If they live in SF they probably already do that.
Imagine if they donated to helping others instead of helping lawyers.
Noone ever thinks about the lawyers
That would be communism.
If they choose where their donated money goes, it’s still capitalism
You’ve aaaaaalmost recreated neoliberalism
It’s only capitalism if the recipients have to pay back the donations with interest and the building gets reposessed when they miss a payment.
No they mean helping people is communism. According to Republicans, at least.
I feel like it leans a bit more towards being satanist these days. Commies aren’t as scary as they used to be, and you gotta keep those Christians riled.
The communists I’ve talked to worship at the Chirch of the Subgenius, praising Bob and talking about something called slack.
The communists I know all use lemmy
Also fair, hail Satan.
That’s crazy talk. You’re crazy. You. Psh.
Can’t rich people ruin Texas or something? Why one of the closest thing to a semi-redeemable part of the US?
Wait what? Where is this story taking place?
Rich people are ruining Texas. Same as all of the other red states.
Ports, food, and various entertainment and tech industries are there. Only way for them to move to HellWorld is if Texas offers more attractive policies for those industries which are unlikely to happen. Not to mention the government is also supportive of this faux progressivism. Newsom defended against removing prison slavery because minimum wage costs too much lol
Ironically, all those amenities were propped up by America’s so-called “undesirables”.
Whether CHUDs want to admit it or not, America is a boring place and the few places that aren’t boring are dominated by the very people Americans are told to hate.
If you’re going to San Francisco,
be sure to wear some flowers in your hair.
If you’re going to San Francisco,
you’re gonna meet some gentle people thereFucking NIMBYs
Seems like a great time to raise all their property taxes.
They voted for the referendum that raised their taxes that paid for this housing that they don’t want in their backyard.
Tax , Law, Rules, policies are meant for poor and disadvantaged.
They could have just voted Republican if they were just going to oppose the same policies they voted for…
Yes but they would feel bad for putting a GOP sticker on their Tesla
More likely it would make things awkward with friends and neighbors. That was a whole thing in Floridian retirement communities people would straight up rock Trump stickers but voted Biden so they wouldn’t be ostracized.
But that entitlement wouldn’t allow them the privilege of feeling superior.
Whats the difference in a one party free-market state?
They are fine with building shelters…just not within 100 miles of their homes.
The most normal lib shit.
Sure, but do you live within a few hundred feet of a shelter? Do you walk your dog during the day and see the the daily cavalcade of ambulances and police cars stopped outside one? Ever been stopped at a red light outside your building and had someone walk up to your window asking for change, then curse and spit on you because you don’t carry cash?
There’s a huge difference between helping people get back on their feet, and just sheltering drug addicts.
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thank you for opnion, Mr.
Epic Bacon @ lemmy.malding-liberals
I was writing out a response talking about my experience the past 2 years living 1 block away from a bus station they converted to a shelter.
But I fucking hate you. Your post has angered me so much I don’t want to be enlightening or even funny.
Jesus.
Yea it’s objectively pretty shit but rent will also be a lot cheaper
Cool you don’t consider drug addicts to be people that deserve help lol
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Damn, you’re so fucking considerate.
Lol ur actual garbage
The first step of any recovery program or mental health treatment is having stable housing.
BaconIsAVeg
What time does the narwhal bacon my gentle goodsir?
Your tax dollars go towards killing brown kids and drone striking weddings not social programs, American.
wow, ok fuck you too then lol
Actually you pay taxes for the American military to murder brown children and for Tesla to fund research into a new car model
Wow, shocking that a liberal with a le epic bacon username holds Reagan-tier ”fuck the poors and druggies” views
Except that your taxes go into making bombs to blow up kids in the Middle East and for Zelenskyy to launder money in a country with an economy 1/3rd the size of South Africa, with immeasurably worse pay, labour conditions and lower quality of life. Oh yeah and all infrastructure in central and west Ukraine sold off to Blackrock for a back-alley handjob on Goebbels Boulevard.
:pigpoop: :PIGPOOPBALLS: :horsepoo-theory: :eat-ass:
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Nowadays you don’t even need to scratch a liberal, you just have to show them that they live in Omelas.
Ah, classism, the one thing that should truly unite Americans.
What ever happened to Occupy Wallstreet? It gave me a flicker of hope, back in the day.
They got pepper sprayed, beaten, and sent to for-profit prisons.
While every news channel/media org painted them as awful dangerous people. Most likely homeless and doing drugs!
Except that by definition it divides?
Meaning, awareness of it should unite people.
I think it’s fair to say “the thing that unites” when it’s about 99.8% (or whatever) of the people.
This isn’t the 1% that fought this, it’s the 10%.
Why are we posting news from 2019? How did this get this upvoted and nobody noticed? I get that this sucks and the rich people in this situation are garbage, but this does nothing but stoke rage. There are plenty of examples of rich people being garbage in 2023.
Why are we posting news from 2019?
this does nothing but stoke rage
No one seems to care about how old content is as long as they can rage
Imagine if all that money actually went to those that need it, instead of lawyers and miscellaneous bullshit. In the end that’ll be way over 100k (and probably much higher) that could have gone to actually helping people, instead of fueling some rich people’s tantrum.
SF spends about $57k-70k per homeless person. They have around 19k homeless people. It has had no overall effect on the problem due to the high COL and low affordable housing availability, ignoring the willfully homeless and hopelessly lost drug addicts that nothing but “inhumane” force can address.
SF is too favorable to homelessness and inhospitable to poverty to actually meaningfully address the issue with twice as much spending as they have now.
$57-70k
Source?
Here’s a source that disagrees
https://sfist.com/2016/04/12/no_san_francisco_does_not_spend_360/
Thank you for the information.
So a big chunk of the bad math done by people who never read the article is attributing money intended to prevent homelessness to being spent generically on the homeless. They see one number, divide by the other, and presto…outrage.
So your answer is to do nothing to help them? 100k can still feed a lot of people that otherwise would have gone hungry.
Edit: “An important reason why San Francisco policies continue to fail is that there is little or no accountability within the city’s government to evaluate the efficacy of its spending. Some of the city’s programs are so poorly managed that some homeless people likely prefer living on the streets to the facilities that are being provided to them at enormously inflated costs to taxpayers.” https://www.hoover.org/research/despite-spending-11-billion-san-francisco-sees-its-homelessness-problems-spiral-out
Sounds like the problem isn’t the homeless, it’s the people taking advantage of the system.
The problem with every form of social welfare is abuse of that system, from those who administrate and those who abuse. The most vulnerable are the victims and are made into the villains of a broken and unfixable system due to the character and moral faults of others.
Why is inhumane in scare quotes? Do you believe that the state abusing mentally ill people who often can’t even care for themselves is a reasonable course of action?
He wants all of the homeless forcibly removed from his sight, that’s all it is. He doesn’t understand providing cheap housing and easily accessible jobs homeless people can do would solve that problem, but he doesn’t care, because he thinks they’re an eyesore and that’s all he’s concerned about.
Relocation of homeless people to a more favorable economic area is “inhumane”.
So you don’t seem insensitive in the future, they prefer to be called the “housing challenged” now.
A rose by any other name.
Fuck feelings and flowery names to assuage the feelings of the advantaged, I want results instead of a new coat of paint.
Someone once told me it was the material conditions of society that cause poverty and homelessness. But he was drunk a lot and lived with his friend, so he probably didn’t know what he was talking about.
Homeless shelters need to stop treating them like animals. Imagine picking the streets over a shelter with draconian rules.
I bet to cannot because you lack empathy with anyone in a lower socioeconomic situation than yours.
eah. im not in the san fran area, seattle, but i had a coworker who was homeless and yet they wouldnt be flexible enough to allow him to come in late from his job to get into the shelter. and it was my coworkers fault they were homeless, he let people stay with him that werent on his lease and didnt have money for get into a new place yet.
You can’t go in with your bigger stuff, for a fair reason. ( Pests, weapons, drugs). Many avoid it on that reason alone.
But that’s not the big one.
In a bid to have full occupancy you have to line up early for daily intake. That means you don’t have time to get across town for a job interview, for food, for drugs (if you need them, no judge), for safety, etc.
So you line up early hoping to get in, essentially gambling you’ll get a spot. If you don’t you missed food, the good camping spots, etc. If you do get in you’re often only allowed a bag and have to abandon any other stuff you’ve collected.
These places need to be set up with safe isolated storage and some sort of expedited intake methods.
But then these places aren’t even safe, often folks feel safer camped out in the shadows than in a facility.
Shits fucked
Some homeless people chose the streets because they want the freedom. They don’t want to participate in the rules of the system society provides to help them. They don’t want to live in the system, and that is their choice. Choices have consequences, but society should not be expected to tolerate their uncivilized behavior if they chose not to participate.
This take will remain ridiculous until there are systems in place to readily house (and fully assist with support services) every single houseless person to the point at which they can be self-reliant in the city they are currently in with no strings attached. Without those systems in place and showing results, asking any houseless person if they prefer to stay on the street is a poisoned question.
They don’t want to be subject to the rules.
It is our choice as a society to give them no alternative
Their “uncivilized” behavior is us dealing with the consequences of expecting them to be treated like work release prisoners.
too favorable to homelessness
Mate
The weather and general acceptance/generosity facilitates homelessness.
60k is nothing
they are pro birth for free labor, but also anti homeless. those pesky rich! rules for thee, but not for me
They want to exploit the sheep, not take care of them. To them, these are the duds and they’d rather let them die than waste money taking care of people who will never again be productive to society. There’s plenty more functional sheep to go after.
tbh i blame parents too for bringing up children without ensuring some sort of financial security for them before they are even born, also doesn’t help that abortion is getting less accessible (rich people knew which laws to tap): somone’s child could be sentenced to eternal homeless and poverty if his parent didn’t pull out fast enough… what a life
I guarantee you that if they were asked, more than half of these people would support rounding up the homeless and putting them in forced labor camps to “contrubute to society.”
making bills allowing 10 year olds to work is one step in that direction.
land of the fee!
