What holds youtube from blocking all videos to addblock users just as other sites do? Are they afraid of pushing youtube down the cliff?
I don’t understand why self hosted videos aren’t more popular
ever since they’ve been getting so obnoxious and haughty lately i’ve deleted the app (which is barely worth having without premium; esp with them INTENTIONALLY DISABLING background playback on mobile which is a fucking joke and should literally be against the law) and honestly barely visit anymore. i don’t think my quality of life has dropped at all
Literally listening to youtube in the background right now without premium. Firefox mobile ftw.
Video background play fix is the add-on I use.
@TangledHyphae @technology
Then, use a program that is a different YouTube Front End.On Android phones, you can download NewPipe or LibreTube from the F-Droid store. These will allow you to subscribe to channels and to watch without ads.
You can use Invidious instances or you can setup your own to watch through a website.
Invidious Instances: https://docs.invidious.io/instances
Invidious GitHub Code: https://github.com/iv-org/invidiousBecause YouTube does not pay most creators enough to live on, please support your favorite YouTubers using Patreon, Locals, or wherever.
They couldn’t possibly make the experience worse than it already is without an ad blocker.
No adblock = No youtube
To paraphrase a great philosopher: executives… uh… find a way (to make things shittier)
Poor YouTube only brought in 29 billion dollars in revenue for 2022. They are 11% of Googles revenue.
Now granted they are seeing some slowdown in revenue growth, you know shareholders hate that. So maybe they are trying to create some revenue growth again by making more users pay.
Legit curious: How much were their expenses though? 29 billion in revenue is a lot, but if it costs more than that to run, then it’s not profitable.
If it costs more than that to run it they are doing something wrong.
I wasn’t able to find YouTube expenses or a number for profit, but since they are a public company it should be in their 10-K and Annual Report.
Let’s not forget the unmentioned income thanks to gathering all that user data.
The real value of Youtube (and social medias in general) is not the raw revenue they generate.
It’s being able to be able to predict what will trend in advance to sell ads to anyone, anywhere. Which is proven by their 200+ billions in revenue from ads from all services.
It’s extremely likely that in an alternate universe where Google doesn’t own YouTube, their profit today is lower than what they currently have.
But like you said, poor YouTube is not making money explicitly on its own so they’ll use it to justify any cost increase attempt when they already know what the real money maker is.
Bring it.
Yeah bring it on Google. I didn’t thought I could leave Reddit as there is so much content and I thought I always would fall for the sheer quantity of content that Reddit has. I am suprised by myself how easily I accepted Lemmy over Reddit even all these Month later. Maybe I could leave Youtube too and would be okay with another platform that does not provide so much content. And you know how I find out? Not by doing it on my own. But by getting a really good incentive to make this step. If youtube thinks I am gonna bend over and accept hours of ads in my life they are wrong. I will choose the alternative. As soon as they force me to disable adblock, I have all the reasons to pack my coach wagon and go west searching for another life. Maybe it will not be better, but I will certainly be free. And it will be exciting to be part of something new. Bring it on Google. Make me leave you!
I pay for Youtube premium as a carry-over from Google Music (back when it was called Youtube Red). I let it run because I enjoy the screen off feature when I’m driving. On my desktop uBlock Origin still blocks 340 scripts/trackers even when logged into Premium. They not only want to eye-rape us with ads, but they want to track the fuck out of us across the web.
The more Google keeps going down this path as they inevitably always would, the more viscerally I will fight against it.
How about invest in actually using all the data you have on me to show me ads for products I would actually be interested in? I wouldnt hate ads so much if it wasn’t so repetitive and for crap that is useless to me.
That’s fine. The more they do stuff like this the less I watch YouTube.
Plenty of other things to watch out there.
And people will fight this even harder.
Not the vibe here by the look of the comments but for me YT premium is worth it. There’s a lot of great stuff on YouTube and it’s nice watching it all ad free in HD on my TV without ads. I realize hosting, streaming, and producing that content isn’t free and I don’t mind supporting it.
Does that include Sponsorblock? Otherwise you still see ads, just from the content creators and not from YouTube.
Yeah true, those are skippable though
You still get ads with YouTube Premium though…
Do payouts for creators increase if people that watch them have premium? If not you are not buying it for the good content but for the service infrastructure
you are […] buying it […] for the service infrastructure
Which in and of itself is fine, I suppose. 👍 Depending on the price, of course.
From what most creators I’ve seen who talk about it say, premium users are worth more than ad supported users. There are more ad supported users overall than paying premium subscribers though. Pushing people to a more predictable subscription service would benefit YouTube by making it less dependent on advertisers and not as affected by ad blockers so I can unfortunately see why they are considering changes like this.
Oh no are there going to try to block the ad blockers but then the ad blockers block the ad blockers blockers? When will it end? They can keep on trying to make it worse but people will just keep figuring out how to bypass it.
Ironically, I cannot read the article because I use an ad blocker.
Really? I am not having any issues with uBlock
I’m sure that is the case, however I no longer use chromium browsers due to Google’s behavior and I only use Firefox as a backup. If a site is going to be this egregious to prevent me from reading their content, I am no longer interested in what they have to say.
Isn’t it 12ft.io
Thank you both.
Oh it’s back. It stopped working cos it broke some TOS or whatever.
Well, it’ll also make my viewing experience worse if I do so…
