Just seems like everything is “this company did this to their employees” and less about “this novel messaging protocol offers these measured pros and cons.” Or similar
And yes, I could post things, but I’m referring to what hits the top, 12h.
Can anyone rec communities with less of a biz and politics and wfh vs in-office vibe?
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Check out Ars Technica. I’ve always enjoyed the fact that the are more technical than average news sources. For example, when they report on a software security vulnerability, they’ll actually go into the command line and try it for themselves. Pretty good reporters which more than basic tech knowledge, if you ask me…
Great, now I just read an article about no printers and am so enraged
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Some of their headlines can be shitty, but I find that most of their articles are great once you dive into them. Except for their Wired cross publication stories, those mostly suck.
Eric Berger’s space articles are fantastic. Well minus a recent article of his where he hand waved away Elon being a shitheel. On a technical level they’re great.
Eric Berger is a SpaceX fanboy. He is knowledgeable about rockets though.
They just aren’t good anymore. And haven’t been for a while. The science/space articles are nice to read on the technical side but they fall short on anything traditionally tech related.
A number of posts are sensationalized to the point of almost being incorrect. For example, their Okta post about the breach update affecting everyone was portrayed as if it were a third, completely unrelated breach. While Okta’s security practices were shown to be terrible this year, writing misleading articles makes it hard to follow news.
They’ve leaned hard into the “Twitter news gets us clicks” problem, they’ve leaned hard into that for clicks.
For years they’ve made it a point to have some kind of Tesla-bashing (or least Tesla related) article every few days — even 5 years ago Tim Lee basically said it was to drive traffic to the site.
With that said, obviously traffic plays a role. We’re a primarily ad-supported business and so we write more about topics that will generate more clicks. Articles about Tesla generate high click-through rates on our home page. Google News, our primary source of external traffic, also sends us a lot of traffic any time we write about Tesla. So do I write about Tesla for clicks? Guilty as charged.
Ars’ quality dropped badly about 10 years ago, around the same time New Scientist went to shit. A lot of their articles are now uncritical regurgitations of press releases. Even the one guy they had doing really detailed investigative pieces on the videogame industry up and left probably 5 years ago.
Also they never followed through on their promise to give us an everything-but-apple RSS feed.
And they’re on the Fediverse! @arstechnica@mastodon.social
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I do t know how OP does it but I use Boost on Android which has this functionality
On Android I can use Boost. I didn’t realize Lemmy didn’t have this as native functionality, as it’s something that’s actually built into Mastodon by default.
Voyager is an alternative web app that works on all web browsers, by the way
Blocking “Musk” has made Lemmy much more enjoyable for me!
What? I can’t hear you.
Elon, Musk, and Twitter are my three banned words at the moment. I would add X but I’m weary of the false positives.
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I don’t think people should have to put extra filters to get what they signed up for when they subscribed to “technology”
I bring this up all the time when I can be arsed and people always rebute with “but it’s about a company that makes/uses tech”, completely missing the point I was making saying that shouldn’t be the criteria for content here. It’s exhausting.
Honestly, we need tech business news vs technology in general, but technology also probably should be split between hardware and software. Or maybe computer vs the rest.
Computer vs the rest.
I’d love to see posts about new materials, manufacturing processes, waste management, engineering techniques, mechanical designs and tests.
But nope, it’s just computers computers computers. If you can’t do it on your PC at home it doesn’t count as tech, apparently.
I sometimes read ieee spectrum for that stuff
There was a r/HardwareNews on Reddit.
We could implement it but I have not the time nor the will to moderate a community.
Please stop reporting this as “not tech related, rule 2”, we welcome the feedback.
Our stance has been, if it’s in a gray area of “tech” such as tech business related, and users upvote it: that must be what the majority wants.
We will be discussing this more, as it seems some people want strictly tech related content and none of the gray area content.
Didn’t know how to make a meta post, or similar, thanks
I think users of this website tend to upvote whatever sentences they see which have keywords in them that they think are good.
I agree with op here, and I say forget what the upvotes are saying. they’re nonsense.
I’m a fool ruled by my amygdala. My upvotes are often nonsense.
would you like to come to my house and upvote my wife
Nobody wants to do that
It would be nice if there were separate Tech Industry and Technology News communities.
Totally agree
There is a “Business” community, ideally the mods should remove any links that are “company a lays off workers” or “Elon Musk is stupid again” and re-direct them to Business, where the business decisions belong.
I can post any technology related outside of tech biz but mostly it’s not a popular thing here, many of articles are too technical, hardly any discussion, even worse there are articles that you won’t like it. For example, I can post the good thing about EVs today and another day I can post the downside of EVs battery to environment, and I get the heat.
Posting in niche community? Not enough MAU, I’v tried in c/collapse, c/cybersecurity etc, no discussion.
c/technology is just a mirror of r/technology
This is the correct answer. More folks that subscribe here are the ones who interact and upvote the political ones.
“I wish there were more articles about the shiny emeralds and how valuable they are and not about the dead, exploited children working in the mines”
You see OP, that’s you. ^
Both articles are out there, one is just more important as prevalent topic right now because of the human beings in the mix.
With all due respect, fuck the dead children, I came here for the shiny emeralds. If you want awareness for your mining kids you can go to c/deadbabies and cry about it there.
I’m with OP, I came for interesting technologies not all the other bullshit.
Nah. Tech biz is not tech.
Both are important, interesting topics.
Not to mention most of the commenters just hate on the technology too, every article about any type of transportation that isn’t trains people just shit on it in the comments. “How is this gonna save the planet?” “Why does this need to exist?”
Hating technology should be its own community.
I think this is a flaw in the current state of Lemmy. There’s so few posts compared to Reddit that random people will find your 3 upvoted post in all. This leads to people outside of the community dominating the discussion.
You can also see this with other communities. Everytime I see the conservative one in All it’s a non conservative OP being insulted by other non conservatives, because they assumed OP must be a conservative to post there.
There being an anti tech community won’t solve this issue. I think the most accessible solution is moderation.
Quite candidly, it’s not articles selling the spiel of tech bros that is going to help us. I’m one of those commenters and I also wish “Technology” was about technology instead of trying to sell the latest gadgetbahn or a solar road or self driving cars.
EDIT: It’s not technically about “helping us”, but more specifically about the kind of spiel those “articles” are trying to push. It may very well be about technology, but it’s misrepresented as something that could help us and save us in the future while in reality, it’s just marginally interesting, Think about how many articles there has been about bitcoins, NFTs, AI and crap like this, coming from techbros and their simps. That’s why you’ll see the sort of comments you complain about. It certainly is tech, but it’s more like tech they’re trying to hype, misrepresent and sell.
I love tech. I work in IT. But I can also smell BS and will not hesitate to point it out.
AI isn’t anything like NFTs and Bitcoin, it has an actual use case and is being leveraged by a significant number of white collar workers to automate small tasks and take the sifting out of search engines.
But it is like crypto in that a lot of the attention it’s getting thinks it’s something that it isn’t right now. It might be that in the future but AI has a long way to go still.
Crypto never will be anything, that’s the point I’m making.
AI is a tool, a good one. It can’t take your job anymore than the cotton gin took the job of textile workers, but the professional can make plenty of use to help shorten their workdays with it. As it gets integrated into private companies data environments you’ll see more in house models trained on company data that will assist cloud engineers and data engineers in getting things straightened out.
Crypto is a invented currency that was only good for buying drugs and NFT’s are literally a scam.
The annoying thing with these reductionist views is that they miss the potential applications.
“JPEGs in the blockchain” is indeed a pointless use case and were so hyped because of greed and a ZIRP world. This doesn’t mean that all applications built on top of NFTs are worthless. For example, one could see a well-thought ticketing system based on NFTs that could destroy Ticketmaster.
No it couldn’t, it provides nothing that a few database tables couldn’t. NFTs themselves are essentially just pointers to things that can be traded, you are always going to be entirely at the mercy of whatever system is deciding what is being pointed to.
nothing that a few database tables couldn’t.
Transparent consensus about the data can not be achieved with a few database tables.
You could make the argument that this does need a blockchain and it could be built on another decentralized consensus protocol (like Paxos), but then you’d lose the permissionless aspect of it and such a system would likely end up being control by a monopoly or oligopoly, like the whole ticketing industry is controlled by Ticketmaster today.
whatever system is deciding what is being pointed to.
The ticketing use case could work precisely because a ticket is just a pointer. Access to the actual venue/seat would still need to be verified in person, but the issuing of tickets and transactions in the primary/secondary markets are the nasty parts that are exploited by Ticketmaster and gives them so much moat.
Well said. I like how the communities on Lemmy have a lot of tech and FOSS people who are able to recognize (and call out) a repackaged sales pitch. I understand most mainstream publications have to pay the bills, but so many of the “journalists” are just caught up in the hype cycle.
Totally agree!
“Here’s some incremental progress that is a possibly interesting technological improvement.”
" Omg it isn’t literally perfect and exactly aligning with my interests. Literal capitalist trash, zero value, no one wants it"
You forgot to call it fascist. That’s a word people with that attitude tend to throw around a lot.
In my experience it’s been quite the opposite. The press release will be “here’s some shiny new big deal” and the comments in this community will point out that it’s not only nothing new, but often actively working against users’ interests.
Like Meta totally joining the Fediverse or Apple ““fully”” adopting RCS despite both those companies having a long history of anti-interoperability practices. There’s a lot of BS that comes out of silicon valley, and there aren’t a lot of good journalists able (or willing) to rightfully understand what’s being said, so they repeat the big claims without proper context.
@GBU_28 I see what you mean!
The smaller tech communities seem to have a better signal to noise ratio, I was in !technology@kbin.social the other day and it’s mostly posts about actual tech.
Fantastic! Thank you! I have subscribed there and unsubscribed here.
Most technology news your average layman is interested in is ads for new products and how tech companies turn out to not be so great to work for. I think that’s why most news that appear on top don’t really cover the fun stuff.
GBU_28 has made exactly zero posts, besides this one.
Dude, you can help fill the place with tech articles.
I said that in the post text, and indicated I was seeking communities where more actual tech discussion is found. I received it.
As I said, I’m interested in places where the top, 12h content is more tech oriented.
In general I consume from this place. I’m not interested in building. I don’t care your opinion on that engagement pattern, only your info on other communities if you have it.
You don’t have to justify yourself to them lol. You already are being the change they allege you want to see. And in the process created a resourced for others of like mind to find sources of news that doesn’t focus on tech business. A great first post.
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That’s just what’s happening in the tech industry right now. Loads of firings and other issues. That’s the human factor of tech.
That’s all well and good but I want discussions about tech itself. Tell me about your latest achievement while building your robot.
I’m aware I’m off the wavelength here, but I wish those concepts were in a “human factor tech” channel
Maybe. Maybe not. Humans do make up a disproportionate amount of factors involved in most human activity. So their concerns do bubble to the top when all is not well.
I don’t care what is well or not (in a technology channel). I care about tech.
In other channels, such as perhaps a workers rights channel, I care about such topics.
HackerNews(ycomb) is a veritable gold mine but I find the community to be a bit caustic at times.
There is a HackerNews mirror on Lemmy here that I like but not too many people comment. If I saw more activity I’d probably comment more.
Repost it here if you find something interesting. I read a little ycomb but it’s a firehose and discussion is typically bad as you said.
Lemmy needs more reposting from other blogs. Filtering content is useful. Not everything needs to be original.
but I find the community to be a bit caustic at times
I find the same can be true around here too, though.
But HN is also mostly tech biz.
I really don’t find that to be true. I see lots of toy implementations, general philosophical discussions, hell even just man pages.
That’s just not correct.
17/30 articles are not business related at all (ie “A genetically modified bacterium that outcompetes bacteria causing tooth decay”, “How many hobbits? A demographic analysis of Middle Earth”, “Goodbye, clean code”, “Show HN: Homebrew 16-bit CPU…”)
2 posts for finding jobs
1 post about a teardown of the Fairphone and assessing its repairability, which does mention a company but isn’t that much about business
There is a HackerNews mirror on Lemmy
Mind sharing?
Wayyyyy too many libertarians on hacker news who have experienced a lot of personal success in their life and have transformed that success into an utter lack of intellectual maturity or ability to empathize with others less fortunate than them.
Good info, but wow I have read enough hacker news that I have almost zero interest in talking to tech people in real life at this point, they can be so aggressively naive and are always focused on incredibly narrow visions of the future that as a rule don’t center humans as the most valuable part of society/economy. If aliens came to earth and offered them a new algorithm in exchange for enslaving all of the planet, they would shrug their shoulders and say “We can’t stand in the way of progress, I might as well do it, somebody else will if I don’t!”. It makes me thankful a physicist developed the nuclear bomb not a tech person or I am sure we would all be dead right now.
Good info though and fun to troll libertarians if you are into that kink.
