GM Says It’s Ditching Apple CarPlay and Android Auto for Your Safety::undefined
I just want to buy a 90’s car without a stupid iPad bolted to the dashboard, an electronically actuated parking brake, or hundreds of worthless, permanently enabled nannies keeping me from doing what I want to with my own car and making repairs hundreds more expensive than they should be.
Imagine being able to buy a brand new 90s Corolla for 10k. That’d be nice
I recently saw a 94 corolla with like 2400 miles on it while car shopping online. I guess it just got bought, parked, and forgotten about. It was in spectacular condition.
It was also $26,000.
It was a Honda Accord iirc. Saw the same post…
I have a 2019 car, manual transmission, knobs and switches for climate and heated seats, and a touch screen for carplay. It’s the best.
I love the ones that pop up as soon as you start driving that say “keep your eyes on the road!” 🤦♂️
My 07 Accord is all old school. I installed a bt adapter and I’m happy as fuck.
I don’t want to even rent a car without CarPlay. Good luck with that GM.
there is a strong demographic of us which hate that shit. knobs and switches gang
Some are better than others. You can control CarPlay without touching the screen in Mazdas for example.
Do do I, but those two things are not mutually exclusive
CarPlay exists fine with knobs and switches. It’s just a solid integration for playing audio and having a solid GPS view with Apple Maps/Google Maps/Waze. It doesn’t inherently require giving up knobs and switches.
I don’t think you’re using the word “strong” correctly.
Anyway, all you have to do is just NOT plug your phone onto the car.
This feels like something a C-suite came up with to carve out extra profit and had some bean counters crunch the numbers on, fluffed them up a bit and then had the company roll with it on his idea.
I’m usually disappointed by consumer apathy, but from everyone I talk to who has a car with a screen, if they have CarPlay/Android Auto they couldn’t do without it, and if they don’t have it it’s the biggest thing they wish they had.
I’ve ridden with a friend who has it and uses it a lot, and I can understand the attraction for users who like to be connected while driving. The speech to text stuff actually worked pretty well. I don’t feel desire for it myself, but for me its absence is at most a minor inconvenience.
It does seem like it could mostly be replaced by a software app though, plus some kind of dash mount for a phone.
Fwiw there are aftermarket options do add it through USB.
The hardware would have to support video input via USB though. I think if we’re talking about car electronics, more than likely those addons use wired Android Auto and are really meant for cars that don’t support it wirelessly.
Unless, of course, you’re talking about some aftermarket head units as well in which case all bets are off.
safety
Lol
They’re going to sell a self-developed product at some monthly premium, for sure.
As if i would buy an American car, anyway.
Just put an aux port or a tape deck in. I’ll be okay.
Or just an fm radio & a Bluetooth FM transmitter
“We are dropping carplay and android auto because mobile phones distract the driver”
But the dashboard looks like this
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The systems are also far from perfect. The amount of times I got frustrated with voice to text being wrong, repeatedly, or lack of options or voice search or something of the like in Spotify or something is frustrating and not useful. When it works it works and it’s great but there are many times it doesn’t. All systems are far from perfect still.
Okay… So they frustrated you, not ideal. But we’re talking about phone mirroring even being available on GMC vehicles. Them removing even the option is anti-consumer and their justification is laughable…
Well, tech companies keep improving their products, car manufacturers are known to forget about any product they sold unless they are forced into a recall.
Interesting… 🍿
Hyundai and Kia it is, then.
Their warranty isn’t a sign that their cars are good, it is a ploy to make you think their cars are good.
Kinda middle of the pack overall, but they’re our ahead of every American manufacturer, so there’s that.
They started the 100k warranty to build confidence after their engines were failing do a design flaw they blamed on a manufacturing error found in 1.2m cars. They screwed owners by not replacing the engines due to mileage, then they upped the mile limit after the owners spent thousands replacing the engines with used ones that had the same design flaw. Why used and not new? The new engines, that still had the same design flaw, were backordered for 6 months or more.
They have almost 4m recalled vehicles going from present to 2010 because of random fires on multiple components and have instructed owners not to park indoors.
Their hybrids have an active louvered grill that opens with an electric motor which is not weatherproofed, which can cause the grill to stay closed and cause thousands in damage when water gets in it and the car overheats.
Seeing the problems I have seen with them while working automotive means I could never recommend someone buy one due to their consistent poor design and lying about their engine failure cause.
They had the 100k warranty long before the theta engine debacle.
I had one of those engines. 6 month wait for a rebuilt one where I couldn’t drive my car. Got the new engine, and the same problem developed a mere WEEK later. I basically had to walk from a freshly paid off car and get another car loan :( they have decades of proving themselves to do before I’d ever even consider buying one again. I fell for the “but their quality has really improved” BS once now.
I felt so bad telling people what the situation was. Ya’ll got screwed so hard.
I think the best they can do is the Genesis line. I only say that because looking at how they are engineered is leagues better than Hyundai/Kia. They are more like a German car than an Asian car. I still wouldn’t own one though.
Their expected reliability is lower.
… What did that have to do with warranty?
GM says Apple and Android have access to a ton of data on consumer habits in their vehicles that those systems don’t share with the auto manufacturer, so they’re ditching those systems in favour of their own that gives them direct access to all that user data under the guise of a safety change.
Yes of course GM only has its customers’ data’s best interests at heart i’m sure…
“Consumer habits.” What does that even mean in the context of a car? If we are talking about CarPlay/AA and not a replacement of the underlying automotive OS, it’s literally just a phone. Apple and Google can track what their users do with their phones. They can’t see how a user interacts with the car, beyond maybe inferring driving habits from speed and location?
GM is full of shit, there’s no need for them to be privy to how I use my phone, I already get enough of that shit from Apple.
Mozilla investigated the type of stuff car manufacturers collect, including things like “genetic information” and “sexual activity.” GM just wants greater access to these types of things. Since they can’t seem to build cars that people want, they have to resort to dystopia means such as this in order to raise revenue.
And don’t forget that GM is now in full control of which features become available in different models of car. No more pesky Apple or Google giving users new features for free; GM gets to plan the obsolescence now, and charge subscription fees for features and updates.
And they get to rake it in on both ends, charging their “partners” for access to the app ecosystem and prominent UI placement, the same way TV makers do (I have a dedicated IHeartRadio button on my TV remote, and I guarantee you it’s not because any TV users ever asked for that). They might not be doing it yet, but it is the natural direction.
Of course they will still face competition from dashboard phone mounts, which I suspect a lot of users will prefer in the end.
Yup. Back to charging users for the “nav package” and subscriptions for updates. No more pesky Google Maps with their constant-updated content
The only safe solution is a proprietary GM solution.
Good reason to continue my GM boycott of their garbage vehicles.
GM is seriously so fucking trash. Everyone I have ever known with a GM product had seriously regretted it within 6 months.
I’ve put 160,000 miles on my Impala. I’ve had to replace a vent solonoid once, took like 10 minutes in the driveway. Also had an evap solonoid go bad. Other than that it’s been oil, brakes, and tires. 8 years on and still my daily driver.
Just like every other brand, you have to know which models, years, bodystyles, powertrains, etc have excessive issues and avoid them, then hope you don’t get the 1/100 that’s a lemon.
I own a 2001 pickup and the transmission went once. Other than that no major repairs in the 15 years I’ve owned it.
Thousands of broken sun shells in that era
I’d say their truck drivetrains are second to none in terms of quality (and wildly popular in the modding community) but the rest of their lineup is straight cheap junk.
I have a GM vehicle I like. I already don’t pay them for OnStar. I’m certainly not going to pay them to replace my phone. And then likely have to pay for cellular access for my car.
Great. Now we have nanny companies?
I’ll spend my money accordingly.
It’s not actually for safety - it’s because they want their own software to be the only option.
It’s the same move Apple uses whenever they block something in the name of “security”.
The security they are referring to is their financial security.
