• @JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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      Hitler was elected too.

      Just because people have the right to vote doesn’t make them intelligent and informed voters. People vote based upon information they have, and 1930s Germany was rife with propaganda. Half the people are dumber than average, and they all vote too.

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      They were “elected” before most of the population in Gaza was even born.

      The current genocidal Israeli leadership was also democratically elected, and very recently at that, and their approval rating has only increased. What does that say about the majority of Israelis? Why do they deserve your sympathy if the Palestinians don’t because of who they voted for?

      but I also understand that it’s pretty difficult for someone who has lost people close to them to to differentiate between the Palestinians who killed their sister because she was a Jew and the ones who didn’t

      Care to clarify this BTW?

      • If you have a friend or family member killed by a paramilitary group that claims to directly represent a group of people you’d be pretty hostile to that group of people too. Same as the IRA claimed to represent Catholics in northern Ireland and the Ulster volunteers sprang up to bomb catholic owned businesses. Or the way that the British army viewed the catholic areas of northern Ireland as inherently hostile places.

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          Britain has committed serious atrocities against Ireland… Where are you going with this?

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          Does this logic not also apply to Hamas? Seems like it’s a pretty big part of why they’re so antisimetic then, what with Israel literally claiming to represent all Jewish people in the same way Hamas claims to represent all Palestinians.

          Why the double standard then? If you condemn Hamas for its antisemitism, which I agree with, why are you excusing Israel’s anti-arabic actions if they’re based on the same fallacious logic?

          • I’m not excusing it I’m saying that hammering the all Israeli’s support genocide is exactly the same as saying all Palestinians support murdering babies. Basically you’re equating all Israeli’s with the current rightwing government. It’s like saying all Americans are maga zeallots or all Germans are Nazis. It’s just f##king stupid.

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              removed you were the one who started with the “Palestinians elected Hamas crap”. Nobody here has been attributing guilt to an entire nation’s population except you.

              • The meme doesn’t say “some Zionists” it implies all Israelis. It’s a sweeping generalisation as well as being technically inaccurate. I was just pointing that out.

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          If you have a friend or family member killed by a paramilitary group that claims to directly represent a group of people you’d be pretty hostile to that group of people too.

          Damn, you say this and yet you can’t even recognise that Gazans are human enough to have this also apply to then. Except it’s not “a family member or friend” it’s their entire family, and all their friends, and their home, and the city they lived in.

          Fuck you, genocide supporting cunt.

          • What about what I’ve said leads you to believe I support genocide? I simply said that it’s a conflict with too much history for me to assume I have anything to contribute, other than saying that the comparison with nazi Germany is lazy and inaccurate. I don’t support either side. I’m just saying it’s not as simple as you’re all trying to make it.

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              I don’t support either side.

              And this is what genocide support looks like in the polite company.

              Israel is an abomination jfc

              • So you’re ok with kidnapping and infanticide? I’m not accusing or anything. Just curious where you stand on the attack that the genocide is in direct response to.

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                  I am fine with Palestinians using any means necessary to dislodge the colonizers from their land.

                  Israel has no rights under international law as such their citizens are fair targets.

                  Israelis deserve no pity or sympathy the same way Germans did not deserve any after what their regime did in Europe.

            • Cowbee [he/they]
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              Failing to support either side of a struggle supports the dominant side, which is undeniably genocidal Israel.

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              All of your blatant genocide support is what leads me to know that you support genocide. And guess what, during the Holocaust, you would also have been saying “it’s a conflict with too much history, I don’t support either side.”

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                Nahh mate only Jews got killed during world war 2 so it was clearly wrong!

                • Jews, the disabled, LGBTQ, Slavs, pretty much anyone they felt like killing. And none of it was provoked, unlike the current war which was preceded by kidnapping, infanticide, and indiscriminate murder of unarmed civilians. You might almost say someone might become unreasonable in response.