• @mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    23 hours ago

    Do you think that’s what’s implied, whenever someone tells you to stop letting outright fascists take power? ‘Pancakes are good.’ ‘Why do you hate waffles?’ Wrong.

    If you have a plans for better elections - great! But when the election happens, and your plan didn’t work, you have to work with what’s real.

    If you have plans totally unrelated to elections - great! They won’t conflict with voting for less evil, no matter how evil you think “less evil” is. More evil is worse, actually.

    • @Grapho@lemmy.ml
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      419 hours ago

      Again with the reductionist analogies lmao. Can liberals not defend their positions without pretending it’s a fundamentally different situation first?

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      23 hours ago

      whenever someone tells you to stop letting outright fascists take power

      Read Fascism and Social Revolution by R. Palme Dutt

      Read Economy and Class Structure of German Fascism by A Sohn-Rethel

      Then tell me that it is possible to keep fascism out of power through voting.

      So what are you doing right now to fight fascism? If the answer doesn’t include being active in a socialist organization, the only people that historically have been effective at opposing fascism, then the answer is effectively “diddly-squat”, and you should get your ass in gear.

      • @Grapho@lemmy.ml
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        319 hours ago

        That’s not as easy as lecturing those who do the work for not doing what they wish they’d do instead