During negotiations with the DNC and the Harris campaign, we were repeatedly told by interlocutors that Harris couldn’t meet any of our basic requests (a policy shift from Biden, a Palestinian speaker at the DNC, a statement distinguishing herself from Trump on Israel, or even a meeting with Michigan families who lost loved ones to Israeli bombs) because of AIPAC-aligned politicians like Fetterman, who might take to TV, rile up suburban white and Jewish voters, and fracture the party’s coalition in a swing state.
That political calculus alienated a key voting bloc, although likely not large enough to have shifted the ultimate election outcomes, that should be part of a durable Democratic majority. But few will ever be held accountable for that choice.
A Fetterman staffer condemning Uncommitted for not advocating for Palestinians ‘the right way’ is like an arsonist scolding the fire department for using the wrong hose.
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I did reply in good faith. I’m serious that the Democrats ran a terrible campaign and their loss should be placed squarely at their feet. Biden and Harris failed you. But you wanna turn this around on me and call me a conservative or something?
You know who’s probably very happy that Trump won? Kamala Harris.
Is this a bit? Nobody here is happy with Trump winning, but you are exemplifying the very reason the Democrats lost so badly. This sort of intellectual dishonesty and over reliance on thought terminating cliches makes everyone who gives a shit about the real world annoyed and off-put. This is the sort of bullshit that makes people happy to see the Democrats lose, regardless of who wins.
The truth is that Harris didn’t give a shit about winning. They would rather lose than do the right thing. The DNC doesn’t care about you or me, they actually have a tremendous amount of contempt for their voters. They would rather “win over” Republicans than do anything remotely helpful to working class people. They don’t want to bother lying that they are for universal healthcare. They don’t want to be in a position where they might have to expand access to abortion. They want to demand your vote in exchange for nothing. They probably won’t reverse anything Trump does in the next 4 years, because we saw for ourselves that they didn’t reverse most of his policies 4 years ago. Except for maybe the child tax credit, which increased childhood poverty by like 50%. The Democrats suck just as bad as Republicans because they are just representing another clique within the same class of billionaires, any “progressive” talk from them is and has always just been performative
Harris lost for many reasons but one glaring reason is the minefield of ding dong purity tests that yall obsess over that are the literal definition of “perfect being the enemy good” and now we all get to pay for it.
“ding don purity tests” like… not committing genocide… got it
edit: also wanted to point out that you served up two more thought-terminating cliches in your response… the democrats aren’t good, they are actually also doing bad things. They murdered something like half a million Palestinians— we all watched it happen— and then they told us, “who are you going to believe? me or your lying eyes?” … All of this was after they dramatically and intentionally created more childhood poverty in their own country. They aren’t “good” at all, they don’t want to be good. They want to serve their own faction of billionaires donors who have a vested interest in things not changing for the better at all.
Yall have failed the trolly problem. See ya at the camps cos I’m out.
us ya dingus. I think we’re all missing the point that the Palestine ding dongs forgot to deal with problems on our doorstep before worrying about shit on the other side of the planet.
“See you at the camps” just comes of as the threat a Nazi would make you sick fuck
You are already mistaken that you have any agency in the trolly problem. You also don’t even seem to understand what the choice was.
ding dong purity tests
This is you, talking about a genocide, one comment after accusing people of not commenting in good faith.
Lol well maybe you’ll start to learn something
What, about how my status as a citizen is under threat? When my partner and I get sent to a gay labor camp? Because yall couldn’t sniff out the bullshit?
Here’s something about violence within foreign policy - if they’ll do it to brown people overseas, they’ll have no problem to a marginalized population within their own borders.
A political party who has no problem with genocide doesn’t care about you and they never will. Splitting hairs about lesser evils is what they count on.
Why yes you really should learn that. And you should act accordingly. The democrats are not going to save you. They’ll enable the violence against you. At best they’ll have camps for you with rainbow flags to show how they support you.
I hope we’re wrong about what is to come. You should find your local leftist org. Voting in democrats has led you and everyone else to this point.
The only people standing with you is us.
look at what they said about the palestinian genocide and then look at what they did. Why would you believe them when they claim to be on your side after that?
having people fail the party and not the other way around is unsustainable
wow critizing the dems eh? must be a trump supporter smh why do hexbears always post in bad faith?
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