What’s up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?

It’s not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.

Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.

Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?

  • SomeLemmyUser
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    Who thinks the EU is AS Bad AS the current USA US completly disconnected from the reality imho.

      • SomeLemmyUser
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        Hahaha you have so utterly and totally lost connection to reality…

        Even in Germany (one of the most pro Israel countries in the eu) there are daily demonstrations against the Gaza genocide, the international court has issued sanctions against Israel, planes are flying meds and food to Gaza…

        Have you ever been to Europe?

        Have you ever talked with people there?

        • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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          Hahaha you have so utterly and totally lost connection to reality…

          Good start with the lazy insults.

          Even in Germany (one of the most pro Israel countries in the eu) there are daily demonstrations against the Gaza genocide

          And the government continues to crack down on it, while supporting the genocide unabated.

          the international court has issued sanctions against Israel,

          No it hasn’t. You’re just straight up lying, lol.

          planes are flying meds and food to Gaza…

          No they aren’t! Why are you just straight up lying!

          Have you ever been to Europe?

          Have you been to Gaza? Ooooh wait, they aren’t human like people in Europe, so they don’t matter.

          • SomeLemmyUser
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            Even in Germany (one of the most pro Israel countries in the eu) there are daily demonstrations against the Gaza genocide And the government continues to crack down on it, while supporting the genocide unabated.

            Yeah cause the working class living in a country and the people in power are totally the same thing. If the government cracks down on protests it must mean that the people protesting must agree with there government /s

            Whack argument

            the international court has issued sanctions against Israel,

            No it hasn’t. You’re just straight up lying, lol.

            First: https://www.icj-cij.org/case/196 Second: if someone says something you don’t agree with the MUST be lying. There is no such thing as having different sources or being mistaken - all people are always acting in bad faith, you are the only good person on the planet /s

            planes are flying meds and food to Gaza…

            No they aren’t! Why are you just straight up lying!

            https://www.zdfheute.de/politik/ausland/luftbruecke-gaza-bundeswehr-israel-nahost-100.html

            Yeah sure, again I must be lying with bad intentions, can’t be that your not informed properly - must be me acting in bad faith

            Have you ever been to Europe?

            Have you been to Gaza? Ooooh wait, they aren’t human like people in Europe, so they don’t matter.

            You call me out for lazy shittalk (point given) And than to this, your so clearly better, just don’t answer questions, don’t offer sources, verbal abuse people disagreeing with you and assuming they hate people - you are such a knight in white armor

            I wasn’t to Gaza, I’ve only watched primary sources who were (al jazira, jung & naiv, bbc, etc.) but at least I don’t think I can look into their heads like you do with Europeans.

            You will not catch me saying “people in Gaza just don’t think Israels are not humans” While you do exactly that with Europeans.

            Arguing with people on hexvear and ml is always such a waste of time -.-

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              Useful idiot… A classic German behaviour when a genocide is happening.

          • Diva (she/her)
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            planes are flying meds and food to Gaza…

            No they aren’t! Why are you just straight up lying!

            They are airdopping tiny amounts of aid and straight up killing people with it at times [1][2]

            Quoting the guy who died from another airdrop shortly after:

            " “This isn’t aid delivery,” said the 32-year-old medic as a crowd of children rummaged through the remains of an airdrop behind him. “This is humiliation.”"

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          There is ton of videos of those protests getting crushed by the police state of germany

          Icj only issued sanctions on some israeli leaders not the same as sanctionning the state of israel

          Air drop is dangerous and condemned by human right orgs.The major western countries need to force israel to let aid goes by trucks with no restrictions or face sanctions a la rusdis and iran or even cuba

    • Cowbee [he/they]
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      The EU is subservient to the US, and acts in lock-step. The US has more influence, but the EU depends on imperialism just as much.

      • SomeLemmyUser
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        USA isn’t imperialist anymore, they are clearly facist.

        Eu is far from good, but also not facist yet. Even Hungary and Italy, which are clearly the worst in the EU are not even close to the shitshow of us Since 2016.

        Eu still has international rights, EU still has right for asylum EU still has free speech, EU still has sent have kidnappings by state actors, EU still has freedom of press, EU still acknowledges climate change and tries to fight it.

        Do I think EU is good? No! Do I think they do enough to protect those things? No! Do I think one should fight for the EU or defend it? No!

        Do I think anyone saying EU and murica are just as bad has a smooth brain and clearly never watched news fr 10years? Yes!

        Saying facism is the same as capitalism doesn’t acknowledge the new quality the system has.

        Its like saying there is no difference between Marx, Stalin and Kim jong un, because they are all socialists and depend on cultural hegemony.

        You only seeing black and white and no grey proves my point…

        • Cowbee [he/they]
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          I don’t think you know what imperialism is if you think the US isn’t imperialist. US imperialism is well-documented, it’s the world’s largest empire. The US uses its vast financial capital to dominate the global south and expropriate vast sums of wealth, being fascist isn’t at all incompatible with imperialism.

          Further, the EU doesn’t respect international rights, doesn’t have free speech, does disappear political opponents, etc. The only point I partially agree with is that the EU acknowledges climate change, though it doesn’t take it as seriously as the PRC does. The EU still practices the same process of using financial capital to dominate and super-exploit the global south for super-profits.

          Fascism is not distinct from capitalism, it’s capitalism in crisis. It isn’t the same as liberalism, but both are linked.

          Marx, Stalin, and Kim Jong-Un are all socialists, sure, but none depend on “cultural hegemony,” whatever that means, and all are different people that live in different times, contexts, and countries.

          I don’t only see in black and white, I have tried to explain the nuances of Marxist-Leninist perspectives, and again you strawman, caricaturize, and now even deny the US as an empire. Fundamentally you don’t know what you’re talking about, I suggest you take a step back and read.