Americans; If Trump wins in November, what are your plans?
I’m thinking on going to south america, I would rather go to Europe, but If Trump wins its very likely he will allow Russia to go and invade other nato members starting ww3
Where in South America would you go? What places are welcoming of American immigrants?
Most places are welcoming to Americans
But do they allow us to just move over there and gain residency without any family?
There’s one that you had to leave for a day per some interval (a year iirc) and could come right back and resume your effectively residential (but not technically) life. Can’t find it now but…
Seems Georgia offers a year at a time with a simple day trip across the border as needed.
Language would be a helluva challenge but…. Alright. I’d take the learning curve over living under Emporer Big Mac.
Honestly, I don’t know but hell at this point I would look for political asylum programs in those countries.
seriously! I bet I could do that in Cuba since I have family there. The embargo just makes it so I can’t access my finances.
Yeah, I would recommend you search the government websites but most places are good about offering a path to residency
Try and see if my international employer has any semi-permanent positions overseas.
But more likely than not, return to introvert and hope my family doesn’t continue to devolve…
Unfortunately if the U.S. gets really bad, everywhere will get really bad. If Trump does putin’s bidding, then it will creat power vacuums around the world and will lead to wars. Leaving might be less safe than staying.
Or it won’t be as bad as predicted and it will just be very bad. Then I’m not sure.
Already working on getting permanent residency in another country that doesn’t share a border with the U.S. Not specifically because of loser Trump but we will be more likely to use it if that fucker finds his way back to office.
Honestly, I would be shocked if he ever wins another election or somehow manages to come out on top. He lost by a lot of votes last time. Since then, we watched him on TV while he incited an insurrection, his subsequent behavior suggests he may want to start a civil war, a jury determined he is a rapist, and enough other shit to write a book series.
His post-presidency career is selling NFT’s, shoes, begging for handouts from his idiot followers, criminal defendant, and whatever other scam he thinks of when he wakes up. He’s a petty hustler who inherited money. He’s a loser.
More importantly, he is a criminal. He can’t help himself. He is going to cheat in the election because he cheats at everything. He cheats on his wife, cheats on his taxes, cheats in golf, cheated in an election. He is going to cheat and he will be caught red handed. It’s not unreasonable to wonder if he might get himself arrested for what he does in this election.
He’s already facing four criminal trials. He’s not beating 91 felony charges, especially when most of them are from the feds. They don’t lose cases and they don’t bring high profile cases unless they have the defendant dead to rights.
He is toast and he knows it, which is why he’s so desperate to delay the trials and win the presidency. He is arguably a domestic terrorist. He is arguably a national security threat. The three letter agencies are probably on him like flies on shit. If they’re not, they fucking should be. I don’t believe he will ever be permitted to set foot in the White House again, and that’s assuming he wins in the first place, which he won’t, or cheats his way to victory, which also won’t happen. He’s done.
Unfortunately I think Trump will get back in
538 suggests that he’s beating Biden in opinion polls, plus he’s far ahead of any other candidate in the Republican primaries.
538 is bullshit. They are wrong as often as they are right. People don’t prefer Trump to Biden or anybody else for that matter. There’s just not a lot of enthusiasm for Biden.
Biden is old and boring. Otherwise, he and his administration have been competent. He has a lot of shit on his plate between the division in our country, war with Russia, and now Israel getting into shit at the worst time possible. Iran is also simmering over there and we have the usual shit from North Korea. Throw in relations with China and this administration has as many challenges as any in recent memory.
The upside is we have a great Secretary of State and the rest of the cabinet has been pretty solid overall. And don’t forget, the administration and the Fed managed to stave off a recession in the midst of all of this, which is a pretty difficult balancing act when dealing with all these external problems requires significant government spending. The Biden administration is doing a much better job than people realize.
In contrast, Trump fucks up everything he touches. Half these problems have his fingerprints all over them to begin with. A reasonable person knows he is not a good executive, even-tempered or capable of engaging with real leaders. This is a guy who turned a $5M judgement against him into $83M because he can’t control himself. He is stupid and reckless. Do you trust him to sit across from a guy like Xi Jinping? I sure as hell don’t. One of leads 1.6 billion people with an iron fist and the other is a clown masquerading as a mafioso.
For Trump to win, he would have to get a lot more votes than he did during the last election in which he was more or less trounced. I just don’t see that happening. Who didn’t vote for him last time and is looking at him now and thinking he’s the guy? He is the worst presidential candidate in the history of our country by a long shot.
The Republicans have been handed a series of crushing defeats in bi-elections post-Trump. I’m hopeful that it will carry into the federal election, especially if Alabama’s “embryos are people” law survives the supreme court.
Waiting to buy a house until after this election. Blue enough city doesn’t matter.
It’s fun to joke that I’ll just lean into the evil.
I’m worried people around me will actually just lean into the evil, tho.
No matter if that criminal wins or not, EU needs to fend for themselves. The US is a lot more unreliable then Poetin (we know he’s a bastard).
Currently torn between stockpiling guns so I can get flashbanged and black vanned in the middle of the night by the Gestapo and illegally emigrating to Canada.
On the one hand, that first one will be annoying, on the other, I hate snow.
I mean, I get it. If he were to win again things would get much worse. But I still feel like Republicans are running the country right now anyway, and things are only very slightly better than they were under Trump. Ok, some environmental things were rolled back from Trump policies. There was some student debt relief. But all the big things they’re telling me to be scared for if he wins again, I’m already scared about right now. The Supreme Court corruption, the influence of money in politics, Russian interference, sympathy toward Israeli genocide–those things are doing as much damage as Trump could, and Democrats are ignoring it all!
Take advantage of poste election ammo prices falling because conservatives are emotionally driven idiots and stock up.
Don’t worry, the liberals will wise up and start arming themselves to fight fascism!
Right?
Liberals, no.
This too shell pass.
Honestly, he is so incompetent, and he is so focused on himself that other than theatrics, I do not expect him to be any different from average republican president in terms of policies. Those policies will be formulated by whomever he likes at given moment.
Move back to Australia. Thank god I kept my citizenship.
Will you marry me? I’m a good cook and pretty funny, but also autistic so I need my alone time.
Hold on, let me check with my wife :)
Ok, I’ll be on stand by 👌
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Probably leave the country for a while. That’s one of the nice things about being dual citizen. I understand this doesn’t work for everybody, and there are probably other maybe better responses, but that’s my first thought.
God I don’t know. It’d be a god damn miscarriage of justice. I don’t think I could handle 4 more years of it.
4 more years - seems like the start of the Trump forever dynasty if you let him back in.
(From the perspective of a Canadian)
And we’re in for our own ride with “Polly Pockets” as my wife calls him (pierre poilievre). Since it increasingly looks like our fellow citizens are going to fuck up… <sigh>
Careful, miscarriages are considered abortions and that’s against the law.
Har har
