So I made a comment on worldnews criticizing Chinese activity in the south china sea and apparently got banned for it by the automod. This happen to anyone else? Is this Lemmy’s version of the need help post and the shape of things to come?

The instance I posted in was Lemmy.ml

  • @GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
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    191 year ago

    I ran into something similar a couple days ago:

    I wrote a comment critical of Chinas actions in Africa, which was silently deleted after it got traction. When I looked at the mod log, my comment was not listed. Checked back on my comment, checked the mod log from another machine. Nothing.

    Just silently and covertly removed without any trace of who and why. Has me really suspicious

    • @boredtortoise@lemm.ee
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      201 year ago

      That tracks. China’s (imperialist) abuse of Africa isn’t the message they want out there. They frame it as win-win collaboration

    • key
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      41 year ago

      You mean the comment in technology@lemmy.world about “bootleg videos of Chinese foremen in in Africa” that shows in Modlog as being removed by mod for “Racist stereotyping”?

      • @GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
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        31 year ago

        Yes, that one. I don’t mind so much the removal as the odd secretiveness I observed. Where are you seeing that correct mod log? When I tried looking at the reason the removal action was not in the log, which is what my main issue is/was. I even tried from my phone and computer to the same result

        If I make an inappropriate comment (in the heat of the moment) in whatever community it’s totally fine if they remove it but I would at least like to know why.

        • key
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          21 year ago

          I just pulled up the modlogs on lemmy.zip and entered your username.

            • key
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              41 year ago

              I see what you mean about it not showing in logs on lemmy.world. Given the “carnist rhetoric” one shows I’m betting on it being a bug. Lemmy has many bugs and Modlog federation is especially buggy from what I’ve seen.

    • @Dnn@lemmy.world
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      221 year ago

      Funny, communists always insist China isn’t communist at all, so why would they care about it being criticized?

      • body_by_make
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        371 year ago

        Tankies aren’t that type of communist, that is, sane. Tankies are auth rights disguised as leftists.

        • Trantarius
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          91 year ago

          Aren’t tankies authoritarian leftists? What’s “right” about them?

          • @el_bhm@lemm.ee
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            91 year ago

            If you go by the origin of the division and their definitions, they certainly are right. Authoritarian gov means centralising power. People arguing for the Ancient Regime were also pushing better for the people rethoric.

            Besides, they are supporting a state that is closest to a nazi state. russia.

          • @s_s@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            Marx encouraged fascist dictatorships as a method to bring about the proletariat revolution.

            And this is why dictators love the, “give me just a little more power and once it’s secured I’ll hand it all back to the people, pinky swear” schtick.

        • I disagree, they’re firmly authleft, the problem is “auth.”

          Being authoritarian about leftist ideals doesn’t secretly make you right wing because “authoritarian = right wing.” Leftism isn’t “when good,” you can have bad leftists and pretending otherwise is nothing more than delusion.

      • @mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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        61 year ago

        Because the only stance that tankies actually hold is “America bad”, to the degree that anyone that is an opponent of America must automatically be good and must be supported at all costs

      • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        communists always insist China isn’t communist

        I can think of at least 95M Communists who don’t insist this.

        But modern American leftists are increasingly in love with China, particularly with their HSR and Tech programs.

      • @Quereller@lemmy.one
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        71 year ago

        Did the Lemmy developers register the name under the .ml TLD because they are such fans of Mali? Maybe but probably not.

        • Flax
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          101 year ago

          Because the domains are literally free

  • @therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip
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    11 year ago

    The Chinese government is downrite evil. I don’t understand what mistakes needed to be made to allow a cartoon villain level of tyrannical human rights violating government to be put in place, and still exist.

  • @stoly@lemmy.world
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    I have accidentally responded to posts there but have since blocked the instance. Nothing good can come from engaging with them.

        • @jaemo@sh.itjust.works
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          51 year ago

          Well, let’s be fair now, that’s all it means to you, and you’ve loudly made your capabilities and agenda transparent for us all to see.

          Happily, with even the tiniest modicum of critical thinking, one can see puffery such as this is the intellectual equivalent of dryer lint; to be scraped off a filter and discarded.

        • @ChowJeeBai@lemmy.worldOP
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          111 year ago

          And yet here we are. But don’t worry - I won’t report you. I believe in healthy discourse, even if I disagree with the substance and the individual behind it, plus I prefer to keep your comment and the community’s reaction to it a matter of public record.

          The only difference in tactics nowadays is the shills seem to speak better english.

        • @ChowJeeBai@lemmy.worldOP
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          Really? You do understand being Chinese by ethnicity is not the same as being Chinese by nationality…?

    • @maculata@aussie.zone
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      LOL you are such a fool. It’s irrelevant what you feel about manufactured ‘Western chauvinism’, the fact that that China and other countries are brutal authoritarian regimes is the problem. The people need to rise up and throw off their chains.

    • @A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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      961 year ago

      Yep.

      Fastest way to get banned there is to give valid criticism of China or Russia.

      One of the Tankiest of tankie instances

          • @A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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            181 year ago

            Yep, this.

            They are convinced they are gonna be part of the ruling class, So they fucking love fascist authoritarian dictatorship.

            The overwhelming irony is that they would most likely be the ones purged, not the ones ruling.

        • Inability to hold nominally conflicting ideas. You can be a socialist and be against the actions of countries that claim to be socialist. Likewise you can be capitalist and be against the actions of countries that claim to be capitalist.

        • @stoly@lemmy.world
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          51 year ago

          Because there are reactionaries. It’s like PETA or angry vegans who are in it for the moral superiority rather than making the world a better place.

        • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin
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          Because no likey da Americans

          These morons think Iran is a bastion of anti-colonial resistance

          Iran

          The theocracy

          The successor state to one of the longest running imperial projects in human history

          The state currently organizing proxies to destabilize it’s neighbors with the intention of letting a puppet state take all of it for integration within it’s sphere of influence

          That Iran.

          Tankies have no values and even fewer brain cells.

          • Altima NEO
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            11 year ago

            I wonder where they’re all from? Are they living in the US?

            • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin
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              A few are Canadians who think letting the prairie provinces have nice things will lead to the second war of 1812, but yeah, they’re almost always bougie US kids. Why I always call them Bougyeviks.

              All the ideology, none of the actual connection to the people who need the most help

        • @ChowJeeBai@lemmy.worldOP
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          71 year ago

          Sow disinformation about the west, erode tust.

          Now, bear in mind I’m acutely aware of the strengths of china, and the failings of the us, but when the 300lb gorilla is in your backyard eyeing your kids, you get involved with the gorilla, and keep and eye on what is happening in office politics and in the neighbours yard.

      • @Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Isn’t that the developer instance? Are the developers tanki communists? (I don’t believe a real communist would want to support china OR russia since they aren’t actually communists)

    • @ChowJeeBai@lemmy.worldOP
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      41 year ago

      Sorry about that mate. I don’t think Lemmy sucks or anything. But I just hope it’s not going down reddits unfettered moderator powers and getting banned without recourse. Kinda feels like it may be headed there.

      • @SorteKanin@feddit.dk
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        51 year ago

        I don’t think Lemmy sucks or anything.

        This really doesn’t have much to do with Lemmy. If you don’t like what you see from a certain instance, go to an instance that defederates from that instance. That applies regardless of what software you use to access the Fediverse, Lemmy, kbin, whatever.

      • FaceDeer
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        91 year ago

        The abuse of power is instance-specific, fortunately. The whole point of all this is that there are multiple instances. Just ignore the ones that are run by tankies, those instances are theirs to wallow in if they want.

        • @ChowJeeBai@lemmy.worldOP
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          51 year ago

          Yeah. I just hope that doesn’t mean we need to keep switching instances once one fills up with weirdos looking around because no one wants to join them in their poisoned forums any more. I’m pretty sure they will have alt accounts on multiple instances.

      • Its strange. When i first came on here i felt that shit was the same as there bc of this. Now? Idk man… the big difference is the amount of sane voices on here that arent silenced but instead are prevalent. Thats why i dont like the advice of blocking the shitty instances. Young ppl are at risk of stumbling in early, and the trolls/shills need to be pushed back against.

    • Rolivers
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      111 year ago

      Those instances are just satire right?

      …right?

      • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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        251 year ago

        lemmygrad is a full-on cult, lemmy.ml is its public front and embassy, and hexbear, well, there’s plenty of idiots on hexbear, the problem with hexbearians isn’t that they’re Stalinists but that they think signal politics does anything, hence also their propensity to pile. At least in the past I think they’ve given up on doing it outside hexbear.

      • Two of them are practically dead.

        Hexbear is just the exodus of ChapoTrapHouse and a few affiliated sites from when Reddit kicked its ban policy into high gear. The Akira Toriyama Megathread and Online Movie Night top-posts seem about as sincere and good natured as anything on any other social media site.

  • @Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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    Yes, I posted a ProPublica article about how the CCP uses organized crime to intimidate Chinese citizens abroad and got banned from the entire instance for it.