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Do not underestimate Trump. The last time people did that he won the damned election.
Do not underestimate Trump.
You can make some serious missteps by overestimating him.
But look around. Cop riots on ever campus from Columbia to UCLA with pigs firing tear gas and clubbing professors indiscriminately. All because some kids said “Free Palestine” on the lawn. There’s this sense that things will be so much worse under Trump, when its all spiraled completely out of control six months before the next election.
Win or lose, this is turning into a country by, of, and for cops. They own our world, no matter who sits in the White House. The only real difference is whether the President eggs them on or looks the other way.
We’re a constitutional Republic, dipshit. We’re not even a true democracy and calling us the oldest when there are PUBS older than our country is ridiculous. We are YOUNG.
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Nope. But I’d start my family in a different country.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to emigrate to a different country?
Can’t be harder than the US 🙃
Europe welcomes American refugees, don’t worry.
(I’m saying this as a magnanimous European, not as a statement of fact of bow things currently are.)
So I can crash on your couch when Civil War II: Electric Boogaloo starts? Cool, cool.
I don’t currently own a couch but you can have a mattress and sleep in my sauna.
Do we have to wait until the civil war, or is this offer current?
If you don’t mind the smell of weed, both grown and smoked, then sure, come right on over.
I have my trunks and a rubber ducky.
Oh shit count me in!
There won’t be a country one earth accepting Americans unless you hold a STEM degree, medical degree, or are some other professional like a lawyer.
EU will gladly take all the engineers and doctors, same with Canada. Everyone else will have to stay and eat crow.
I’m honestly getting the fuck while I can if he gets elected.
Get passports for yourself and family now. After the election (if he wins) I’m guessing there’s gonna be a huge backlog.
Yeah that’s definitely something I’ve been considering
You need to do it now. It takes a long time especially with kids. Pay to have it expedited. I have them for all my kids.
Getting the fuck what?
Out … Getting the fuck out. Mobile keyboard missed a word, but I find it too hilarious to correct 🤣
I don’t think it would be very civil TBH
I’m chronically ill, while I would certainly help in a capacity which avoids direct combat situations; I still would help those on the left combat the fascist Republicans!
hmmm, if I live there, I would probably try to move out.
or go to a state where this shenanigan doesn’t get acknowledged. not really sure if state laws were meant like that.
maybe this is project 2025 is a multi-tier attack with one layer in the form of fear mongering?
It will mean the experiment failed. I’ll go back to Europe where my ancestors came from, in the blink of an eye, and watch with popcorn as this place turns into Christian Iran
I’ll go back to Europe where my ancestors came from
You’re going to be in for a shock.
Look for YouTube videos where Americans move to modern societies like Germany or Denmark.
They are mind-bendingly overwhelmingly positive.
Look for YouTube videos
Uh huh
Sure. I have a lot of issues with the US but if fascists overthrow the constitutional order every American has a moral obligation to restore the rule of law.
I am a veteran of two wars, first priority is getting my kids out somewhere safe. Doubt I would come back after that. Will cheer for you all, but with republicans existing the USA just doesn’t even feel worth fighting for.
Every single person who votes Trump is a traitor. Yeah, you, that random person (not the guy I am replying to) who is reading this and voting Trump. Fuck you, traitor.
I’m old and out of shape, so I’m not the ideal soldier, but if the conservatives push that shit and there’s an organized resistance by sane, compassionate people who care about people, I’d try to do my part with them.
Have you seen the average repub?
They look like a baby Jabba the Hut and talk the same.
I mean, I’m not that old but I am out of shape but it doesn’t take a lot of effort to use a sniper rifle. I can just sit on a hill and pick off every red flag wielding red hat I see.
I did an indoc for scout snipers. The shit is no joke. Sitting on a hill is easy. Crawling to that hill and remaining in that position over the course of days with limited food and water, nowhere to piss, no shelter from any effects of weather or bugs or anything, that’s the hard part.
As much as I pretend to be one, I’m not really a fighter. I think this war may not need me to be one. The time to respond has already begun, and while front-line protests aren’t my strong suit, supporting protestors in my community is the place for me right now. If a greater conflict escalates, I’m probably not like doing the active fighting, but I can sure as shit help with supply lines as well as helping people who need to recover in the backlines. If I ever need to be in a fight I intend to be prepared, but there’s a lot more to do in a war than fight. And by the time anything like that would happen, I hope to have a resilient community around me who can support each other through hell. The fight’s already begun to an extent, and it’s important to remember that our best place may be “back-of-house” so to speak.
I’ve been wondering this since Trump’s policies started fucking with the country.
Nice try, glowie!
I don’t know what that means…
glowie (noun, internet slang, far right, derogatory): A government agent or informant entering an online space, aiming to surveil extremists. Derived from Terry Davis stating that it was like CIA agents glow in the dark.
That’s what a glowie would say!
This is the most fed post I’ve ever seen
Would you fight a civil war?
With who? Against… who? Like, do I just go down to the city center and start swinging punches? Or are we saying there’s some kind of mobilized resistance movement that’s led by… uh… who, exactly?
Yes
Before the civil war southerners talked shit about northerners as too comfortable and effete to fight. We know how that worked out. All fascists are bound to lose eventually. The question is how much pain and death will they cause before being suppressed.
Most rural towns would be dead in a month if a civil war happened. All those towns produce is meth, teenage pregnancy, and fibromyalgia disability. When the Dollar General runs out of food they will start killing each other.
I can see a few banjo clans attempting to invade cities and set up roadblocks.
The reality of it all is that rural/conservative America is already involved in a proxy civil war with the rest of america. They are using the Republican politicians as weapons to steal our tax dollars and funnel it into their failed existence while they pretend their gasoline corn is something good for the world.
I think it’s oversimplifying to say all small town people are Republican or that small towns don’t produce anything of value. For example people talk about Texas as a red state but millions of people there vote Democrat. (And plenty of Democrats aren’t anti fascist) But you’re right that in actual shooting war maga Republicans won’t do as well as they think
millions of people there vote Democrat
Voting democrat doesn’t mean your politics isn’t still shit. Houstonian Dems put up John Whitmire for Mayor. That guy has done nothing but gargle cop balls and tear up bike lanes since he took office.
Small towns suck. Not a single rural county in the US is paying taxes. Go drive in any. No factories, small dead farms, rotting infrastructure, bunch of chain stores. I showed one of the towns I grew up to someone on Google Street view and they said it looked like a warzone. Yep, oxy and meth.
Not an excuse… but unironically this is why so many rural States are Red. Lack of opportunity and the only hope is in religion. Addressing very real existential erosion of their livelihoods and economic fears would go a long way toward avoiding a civil war. Which another Trump presidency might just bring about…to the Russian’s joy, having set the wheels in motion decades ago.
Maybe. I made my own opportunity by leaving.
Before the civil war southerners talked shit about northerners as too comfortable and effete to fight.
After, too. The shit talking never really ended. It’s been 160 years of smack.
