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My “nExT gEn” update experience:
- Get baited to re-play Fallout 4 through the new TV show + Next Gen update
- Be disappointed since the graphics aged like milk + Official HD texture DLC sucks
- Be disappointed since the update broke nearly all mod support
- Roll back to the release before the Next Gen update + Uninstall the Official HD texture DLC
- Install 205 mods, and happily play with nearly everything in 4K
FYI, most mods I installed are from:
- The Midnight Ride:
https://themidnightride.moddinglinked.com/ - ESO-UI High End:
https://eso-ui.com/fallout4-high-end/
How did you roll back to before the game was updated?
- Be disappointed since the graphics aged like milk
That’s kinda spoiled, lol
People have complained about FO4’s graphics since release. I always thought it was a good looking game. Coming back after the next-gen update I still think it looks good.
IMO the graphics look great, it’s just that it’s so clearly built on the creation engine. Like, the models and textures and lighting are great, but the animation is just so…creation engine
I was very let down with them on release. The animations are worse though.
It always looked like nearly next generation. Better than New Vegas, but when stacked up against the other releases that year like Witcher 3 and Bloodborne it just felt a but underwhelming.
Brother the company is owned by Microsoft now. You can complain about their product in any way you want. Its sold under Microsoft, you can complain. Again, Microsoft
I’m not your brother.
so much about blahaj.zone…
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Y u do dis?
It’s an old South Park meme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH3K2rkkU7g
Because lol
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Yeah, but you’ll get a few hours in and uninstall because you stop playing.
Currently at 30ish hours and still enjoying it.
Reminded me that Bethesda does release some great / huge games.
Albeit quite bugged at release,
but since they (usually) embrace the modding scene, lots of this can be / has been patched and even improved by the community.The Next Gen update is a stupid cash-grab though, and imo should have never happened…
An official modpack would have been much better.
Albeit quite bugged at release, but since they (usually) embrace the modding scene, lots of this can be / has been patched and even improved by the community
Except that all of their patches broke all the mods.
FO4 also was a mediocre fallout game but a decent FPS and base builder
The world is great to explore. Lots of hidden goofs to uncover, but yeah, you play New Vegas for story.
I also play FO1 and 2 for the story.
No offense but this is totally 🤡 meme. You just walked deeper and deeper into bullshit and convinced yourself to keep stepping the whole way
I mean, I get it, I do, I love modding… But can’t they just not upgrade or even downpatch?
They can. The issue is it’d eventually split the community. Mods that no longer have support will be lost, and the ones that do will either decide it isn’t worth updating each time or have to put up two versions. It also creates needless new work for people, especially the F4SE devs.
Damn shame. I hope they don’t touch my baby NV.
Just look at the current state of Skyrim modding.
Aside from some still holding to LE. There are the 1.5.97 SE users and the 1.6+ AE users. And there have been at least one or two more updates in the 1.6 line that also caused more issues and require their own dedicated builds of various mods.
Its fucked
It’s not that they can’t, it’s that people are getting blindsided by updates to a game which supposedly hasn’t received updates for over half a decade, and downgrading on Steam is a surprisingly huge PITA. The Midnight Ride recommends patching, fwiw.
How can you even downgrade on steam?
Most tutorials I can find involve enabling the steam cli, then using steamdb to look up the “depots” of previous versions and downloading the old update in chunks, then unpacking and copying the old game files to your install location. Not exactly convenient.
you download the corresponding depots using the console / steamcmd. Here’s the process using the console.
I thought TMR was getting discontinued over this?
No, fortunately enough. A FO5 written by Obsidian could be released as a bug-free superset of FO4, but includes the whole USA and the moddinglinked people would still be trying to mod FO4.
Why are they accepting automatic updates???
In my particular case, I just didn’t know it was enabled (my modding guide mentioned a way to stop it, but I guess I did it incorrectly). The game hadn’t received updates in half a decade, and I don’t really use Steam for anything else. Apparently, I wasn’t the only one in that boat.
Because the game is old and hasn’t been worked on in years. They’re no reason to even think about turning off updates for it unless you happen to know the random years later update is coming.
But I learned the hard way awhile ago with Xcom 2. They “update” that all the time, but don’t do anything to the game, is just the shitty launcher they keep updating every month.
Manual updates are the way. Pin your versions.
Steam doesn’t have a version pinning. Automatic updates are forced.
Leave Bethsoft alone guys. They’re all out of fun game ideas and need something to do.
They’re all out of fun game ideas and need something to do.
They could try fixing something for a change
The updates will continue until morale improves.
Still haven’t updated to the new update. You just have to swap an app manifest file, takes 5 seconds.
I’m not sure why people with modded setups updated, I guess they had yet to learn that lesson.
So current fallout 4 install is fine and safe?
The one before the ‘next gen’ update.
Looks like I’ll have to downgrade then.
Todd Howard: we hear you fans, we are currently working on updates for Morrowind, Starfield and Elder Scrolls Online which will break add-on/mod support and ruin the frame rate for those games instead of just FO4!
I’d be thrilled to get another Morrowind expansion.
Are you familiar with Tamriel Rebuilt? The team has been adding content to the mainland of Morrowind for 20 years. They’re technically not finished, but there’s plenty to do.
There’s also Project: Tamriel with Skyrim: Home of the Nords and Province: Cyrodiil. There’s not as much content as Tamriel Rebuilt, but all are being actively worked on.
Yes! Tamriel rebuilt is really cool.
Too bad, you get a battlepass instead!
Elder Scrolls Online isn’t a Bethesda (BGS) game.
Skyrim Fans:
lol perfect.
Console skyrim mod enjoyers are weeping having to re-download 75 mods because Todd liked the word Creations more.
Or weeping because mod creators pulled their mods in protest :(
Yeah I know, the show came out and everyone is hyped because of that. But maybe put those resources into fixing shit in Starfield?
Don’t you know Bethesda? They won’t even fix bugs that are thoroughly documented by the community and take 5 minutes to fix. They’re not going to fix a game that is missing entire features.
Starfield was so forgettable even Bethesda already forgot about it.
And you know what? That would be fine.
If they market it as a side experiment, a AA game, priced at $40.
But no, they marketed it as Star Citizen 2.
Starfield can’t be fixed. The game’s issues are rooted in its core - procedurally generated maps, zero-consequence writing, forgettable gunplay. They could fix stuff like base building, giving it an actual purpose, for example. But in order to make exploration and role playing interesting/fun they’d have to effective make a whole new game.
I’m still optimistic. No Man’s Sky, Cyberpunk, and Fallout 76 took their heaping trash and glued things until it became fun. And Starfield has a lot of really good working pieces that can be salvaged.
But you might also be right. I can’t imagine Bethesda fixing quests or narrative elements.
Cyberpunk had a good story and characters, and basis for a game it just was rushed lut the door unfinished. They actually care about making No Man’s Sky better and delivering on their initial promise, then surpassing it when they initially failed and let everyone down. Bethesda doesn’t care. They just want money. They aren’t going to even consider making starfield a good game unless They add an atom shop first and stuff to spend the money on
I think you’re wrong about that.
They’d use a seperate currency for a Starfield shop.
I see the FPS still maxed at 80 through DP connection and the Fallout 4 Script Extender no longer works. The XDI and Be Exceptional mods have
’dThe most thriving mod communities are ones for games that have essentially been abandoned by their publisher. Bethesda is infamous for trying to integrate with its modding scene and personally I don’t care for it.
They actually made the load time worse with their update. Not by a little, by a fucking tonne. Going from any interior to outside now takes like a full minute and 30 seconds, its ridiculous.
Alt-tab until you hear the music stop and it will load quicker.
That is the hackiest workaround I’ve ever heard lol but I will give it a shot, thanks.
I’ve literally always done this with fallout 4. I think Skyrim too. Not because I thought it was improving anything mind you, it was taking so long that I would tab out to scroll some website while I waited.
Downside is you have to keep the seriously lacking, buggy-ass radio on.
Xcom2 had a nice “feature” where if you hit capslock right when the mission starts to load it paused all animations and actually loaded the damn mission far quicker than normal
Hah, those are the load times I used to get on my Xbox One with its dinky HDD. At the very least, The Midnight Ride has been updated to post next-gen, and I now get really small loading times (<5 sec) on my SSD. The game feels less rough around the edges, too. Only took 3 hours to set up :,)
I dunno, I’m looking for more like 8+ hours of modding troubleshooting to really get into it.
It took that time before the update for me as well. 1-2 minutes for every loading screen. There was a mod for that (before the next-gen update) that you could not load via nexus, bc the setup was a little more conplex, but it worked really well (see https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10283 )
The method of this mod was to speed up the fps only while in the loading screen to 300-350 bc the loading times were somehow tied to the fps. Well done Bethesda.
Console “tweaks”
It seemed a lot faster for me prior to this latest update, but they were never superb. Here’s hoping either the mods can be fixed or bethesda can get their shit together.
Super strange because on PS5 the load times are extremely fast since the patch. indoor / outdoor transitions are never longer than 4 or 5 seconds, and quick travel maybe 6 or so
That is strange for sure.
That’s the classic Bethesda experience.
ITT: techbros white-knighting for M$FT and BGS so hard that I genuinely believe their fathers might be Xbox Ones
How dare you complain about the Treat Providers?!
In this entire article, not even a single attempt to quantity the number of complaints.
This sounds to me like an extremely small minority. It appears as though Fallout 4 has sold over 25 million copies, and there’s… Maybe a couple dozen people on the Internet complaining?
You have one story, thats it. They can update that game til PS7 is a thing and you will have 1 story. I love the game but the replay value is minimal, at best
The updates will continue until the free modications stop getting updated.
