• @davel@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    Also medical supplies, including masks, because COVID is Joever.

    Edit to add: There is necessarily a lag between tariff imposition and indigenous production, and we’re left to fill that gap with our own wallets individually. Worse, the prices will almost definitely never come back down as they might in theory, because this is late-stage capitalism.

    • queermunist she/her
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      It’d be really funny if those raw milk drinkers started a bird flu pandemic during a medical PPE shortage 😂

        • Melkath
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          Support genocide of others to cover your own ass… increasing your own vulnerability in 4 years, because you fed the genocidal culture in DC.

          Big brain moves /s

          • Mossy Feathers (She/They)
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            What, you think Trump is going to be different? Hell, you think there’ll be another election if he gets elected? I hate Biden. He’s done some good things, but he’s been a complete piece of shit regarding Gaza, and putting tariffs on Chinese EVs and solar panels because they’re “too cheap” is the icing on the cake. There are no good options, and not voting does literally nothing. If not voting actually changed anything, then we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with (a significant amount of the US doesn’t vote).

            The reason why voting “neither” in the primaries got Biden’s attention was because it sent a message that said, “I want to vote for you (the Democrats), but I don’t like any of the candidates”. That message didn’t come from the people who didn’t vote, it came from the people who did vote, but chose to vote “neither”.

            Not voting during the general election doesn’t send a message. They can’t glean how many people would have voted for Democrats if they’d had a better candidate from the number of people who didn’t vote. Those people could be Republicans who don’t like the Republican options, they could be Democrats who don’t like the Democrat options, they could be libertarians, communists, socialists, fascists, happy with either option or just straight-up lazy. They’re not mind-readers, and again, if not voting actually did anything, then the US wouldn’t be where we are now because a significant portion of the US does not vote.

            Biden being elected may lead to more death in Gaza, and I don’t like that. However, the alternative is Trump, which will result in more death in Gaza (likely the eradication of Gaza’s remaining population), cutting aid to Ukraine, environmental destruction (paraphrasing: “we’re gonna start drilling day one”), the complete destruction of civil rights, attacks against anyone opposing him, attempts to seize unconditional power (again, paraphrasing because I can’t remember the exact quote: “I’m going to be a dictator on day one”), and more.

            Biden sucks, but Trump is so unimaginably awful and destructive that I just can’t see anyone arguing against Biden as arguing in good faith. Either you’re an accelerationist who thinks Trump’s destruction of America will lead to a new and better world, you’re a Trump FUDdy, you’re a Russian/Chinese bot, or you’ve drunk the accelerationist’s koolaid without realizing what you’re supporting. The fact that, after everything that has been said, you think that we’d still have a chance to vote again if Trump gets elected is… mind-boggling.

            I’m envious of your privilege. The implication that you can unironically support non-voting is that you’re privileged enough that you can weather the storm if Trump gets elected. I envy you. Not everyone has that kind of privilege.

            Edit because I want to reiterate this to drive the point home: if not voting sent a message then we wouldn’t be in this mess because a significant portion of the US does not vote.

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        I’m not an accelerationist, so no, it’s not really an option. It’s cool that you feel like you have the ability to just say “no”, but I don’t. I have to live here, and if Trump gets elected then there is a very high chance I might find myself in a concentration camp before the end of his term, assuming he doesn’t find a way to abolish elections entirely.

        So no, I don’t really have an option to just shove my thumb up my ass and refuse to vote.

        Edit: Sorry about the double post, Lemmy was being weird.

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          There’s a very high chance I might find myself in a concentration camp before the end of Biden’s next term.

          All that’s needed is for my red state to declare being trans to be a sex crime, the Supreme Court to decide 5-4 that it’s constitutional, and then I’m off to a farm. Biden and his supporters would do literally nothing and just use my internment in a camp as a fundraising pitch.

            • queermunist she/her
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              I don’t think my chances are good under either President, but I also think Democrats are more likely to fight back if Trump wins. Trump saw the largest protest movement in American history. If the trans concentration camps happen under him then people will actually fight back. If they happen under Biden then people will just be told to vote harder next time so we can close the concentration camps! 🤮

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            There’s a very high chance I might find myself in a concentration camp before the end of Biden’s next term.

            The way things are going, there’s a good chance it’ll happen before the end of his current term.

        • @rjthyen@lemm.ee
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          Always have to vote for the furthest left that has a chance to win and hope enough others follow suit. Our system sucks, but the biggest thing holding us back is how far right the country currently is. Even though depressing, your attitude is currently our best shot and I appreciate that you’re one of the seemingly few on this platform willing to voice it.

    • @Syn_Attck@lemmy.today
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      As a grammar and language hobbyist, I’m interested in your spelling of hobbiest. Shouldn’t such a word come up so often in your hobbyist communities that you know how to spell it by now?

      Feels like someone living in Texas spelling it Texes.

      • @HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de
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        As a logic and math hobbyist, I’m wondering how you came to the following conclusions…

        a) That they participate in an online community OR b) that speaking (in an offline community) would somehow help them to know how to spell the word

        AND

        c) That the word “hobbyist” comes up often in these communities

      • @Professorozone@lemmy.world
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        Thank you for taking interest in the spelling in my post. My autocorrect kept changing things and I must have failed to properly proofread. I do, in fact, know how to spell the word. As a human, I am prone to errors from time to time. I apologize for this.

        Since grammar and language are your hobby, I would suggest you spend less time online, as correcting the rampant errors in language and grammar must consume a great deal of your time. I would also like to point out that there are many people online for whom English is a second language.

        • @Syn_Attck@lemmy.today
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          You adipisci voluptas wut m8? Rerum omnis distinctio eos aliquid. Asperiores quis illo rem est. Rerum voluptatem ipsa assumenda eum eos est. Voluptas quaerat optio ab eos in eos. Error et et quidem consequatur saepe. Magnam ab et at velit voluptatem illum aliquam sapiente. Sapiente!!

            • @Syn_Attck@lemmy.today
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              So you agree words are real and spelling matters?

              I just find it odd such a basic blatant spelling mistake was made while this situation is unfolding and being astroturfed to hell.

              You wouldn’t think an astronomer would call themselves an astrologer by mistake – much higher chance someone selling fake pretty glass to tourists would say their crystals are good for astronomy.

              Since we’re on the subject of spelling things out, I’m questioning the authenticity of the guy who spelled it hobbiest. He may have just made a spelling mistake, we all do it, but 1.) currently heavily astroturfed subject 2.) hobbyists use the word a lot.

              • @triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml
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                211 months ago

                being an insufferable prick and a conspiracy wingnut about people’s basic spelling mistakes seems like a really weird hobbie

              • Highalectical
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                All the astroturfing is pro tariff, while the genuine engagement is anti-tariff. Go shill somewhere else, glowy.

  • fmstrat
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    Steel I get. That’s an environmental issue since US creation is way more carbon friendly. However the rest makes no sense without an announcement in domestic investment that is pulled from currently used non-environmental budgets.

    • @SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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      Pretty sure the steel tariff is a bad thing too. There are certain grades of steel that just aren’t produced in the US. People threw a fit over it when trump did the same thing.

      • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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        Wait we gave the Auto industry money for EVs and 50k SUVs were the result? Holy shit, that’s right up there with giving 4 billion to the telecoms for no actual network expansion.

        • @You999@sh.itjust.works
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          Here’s some highlights from the sources I put in the original comment since you can’t be asked to open them…

          Clay, New York: Funding will support the construction of the first two fabs of a planned four fab “megafab” focused on leading-edge DRAM chip production. Each fab will have 600,000 square feet of cleanrooms, totaling 2.4 million square feet of cleanroom space across the four facilities—the largest amount of cleanroom space ever announced in the United States and the size of nearly 40 football fields.

          Boise, Idaho: Funding will support the development of a high-volume manufacturing (HVM) fab, with approximately 600,000 square feet of cleanroom space focused on the production of leading-edge DRAM chips. The fab would be co-located with the company’s existing, leading-edge R&D facility to improve efficiency across its R&D and manufacturing operations, reducing lags in technology transfer and cutting time-to-market for leading-edge memory products.

          at least $40 million in dedicated CHIPS funding for training and workforce development to ensure local communities have access to the jobs of the future.

          the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) through its Loan Programs Office (LPO) today announced the closing of a $362 million loan to CelLink Corporation (CelLink) to help finance the construction of a domestic manufacturing facility that will produce components essential to electric vehicle (EV) assembly. Located in Georgetown, Texas, the facility will develop lighter and more efficient flexible circuit wiring harnesses—sets of wires and related equipment that relay information and carry electricity throughout vehicles. Once fully operational, the facility is expected to produce enough wiring harnesses to support the manufacture of approximately 2.7 million EVs per year and create 165 construction jobs and more than 1,200 permanent jobs.

          The official source for the solar for all does have a broken link which is supposed to direct you here where it explain each of the 60 grants that were issued.

          To awnser your question, production.

          • queermunist she/her
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            It’s cool how you just take them at their word.

            But my point is that none of this is being done efficiently. Instead, middlemen siphon money from the project to pad their pockets and stretch out the timelines for completion. I won’t be surprised if some of these projects go over budget, over time, or need additional funding.

            Wake me up when these projects complete. Then we can look at how much they really cost and how long it really took and how much they really produce.

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                The money does not go directly to production, that’s the goal post. It goes through a dozen people’s hands before the ground is ever broken on one of these projects, and every one of those hands takes their cut to pad their pockets. That was my point.

  • YeetPics
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    411 months ago

    So end H1B visas and refocus tax dollars on infrastructure and education you fucking prick.

    • Liz
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      I know for sure he’s doing the infrastructure part, but I’m not paying close enough attention to say anything about the other two.

  • GloriousGouda
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    Let’s get a tarrif on major grocery and supply chain vendors at home first.