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I am a much different person today than I was when I started at reddit so many years ago, so that might have something to do with my assessment, but –
Federated social media today is like what reddit was maybe eight years ago. Fills a hole, bearable, occasionally really good, but still a lot of shitposting and propaganda. Ten, twelve and more years ago, reddit was a really good place. As above, maybe it’s because I was younger then, maybe it’s because the world has changed so very much in the meantime. I’m sure those play into it, but in any event, it was better then than the fediverse of today, content-wise.
I feel like Lemmy has WAY more crazy political views, like extreme leftist and BoTh SiDeS people. That’s probably more of a symptom of Russian propoganda across the wider Internet that wasn’t as prevalent 10+ years ago.
a symptom of Russian propogandm
There it is. All you needy to say really.
TIL that egalitarianism and saving humanity from unrestrained capitalism is extremely left.
This also depends on what instances your instance federates with though. You could go to an instance that defederates from the more politically extreme instances.
I think it also depends on what communities you interact with.
I got fed up with it in the Lemmy.world news community and unsubscribed. I’ve been much happier following that change.
There are still some leftist and both sides hot takes I run into … but it’s a much more acceptable pacing now.
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Hmmmm, I remember heaps of people being into Ron Paul because he wanted to legalise weed, and Bernie is a perennial favourite
I’ve been on Reddit for 16 years and I’d say yes it’s very similar. Like Reddit back then it was very tech focused and quite liberal.
I do think people are a bit more vicious online these days than they used to be and a bit more polarised.
From a content perspective there used to be more blog content than tech news content, but it’s fairly similar. What I like about Lemmy is it’s far less commercial and the conversation is more genuine.
However I don’t think Lemmy will become Reddit in 15 years, I think it may languish in eternal obscurity and I’m actually okay with that.
Reddit exploded when Digg crumbled and the same could happen with Reddit crumbling but idk, there seems to be some stickiness to Internet websites these days.
Regarding stickiness, perhaps it’s because the internet is ubiquitous now. Fifteen years ago, those of us on Fark and Digg and Reddit came to the internet for a lot of things. Notably, we kept in touch with friends that way (MySpace and Facebook) and in particular, we got our news that way. My parents were incredulous forever and still kinda are that I “don’t watch the evening news.” Now everyone uses it for everything. The big difference is that the early adopters are naturally more open to change because they adopted something that was a change. The rest of the population was slowly pushed into it. Now they don’t want to leave the sites that they’re used to (e.g. Reddit and Facebook) because they aren’t that open to change in the first place.
There’s no jailbait, no upskirts, no fatpeoplehate, so Lemmy is still better
no upskirts 🤣
you must have NSFW filtered.
There was a subreddit where people took upskirt creep pics of random women, not models. If that’s happening somewhere on Lemmy I hope our instance is
federateddefederated with it. Porn is one thing but that was awful.Edit: Goddamn spell check makes me sound like a fucking scumbag
Right why would we want to be that
Don’t forget about all the gore subreddits like /r/WatchPeopleDie
I used to be against those, but then it kind of shifted for me with all the cartel videos. It brought to life the horrors of what they are doing to normal people.
While it’s not for everyone, that stuff does have its place. Reddit banning all those subs when the Christchurch shooting happened was stupid.
That was banned a while ago.
To be fair, we’re talking about Reddit ten years ago.
And when that was banned, we got eyeblech and NSFL__
https://lemmy.world/c/upskirtbabes
Someone made this and apparently abandoned it.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !upskirtbabes@lemmy.world
I miss those. And eyeblech. I wish Lemmy had some of those.
I miss fatpeoplehate.
Wow, I was there for the others but I wasn’t aware of an upskirt trend. If it’s what it sounds like, seems like a crime
I think it got banned around the same time as the jailbait sub. Reddit was and is a cesspool
“Consent” was not a popular topic on early Reddit. Or the internet writ large, I guess.
Kinda got the same small in crowd vibe as old 2012 reddit, but less big and more jaded.
It’s big enough to binge for a few hours but you do run out and got to wait, I was in withdraw for a little. Mods, mods never change.
Yes, but now with more unhinged troglodyte authoritarian moderators.
Oh how history has been white washed. Lemmy isn’t perfect. But reddit never was either.
You must not’ve been on reddit 10+ years ago.
Qgyh2 was the OG power mod.
You feel like there are more power tripping moderators here?
I feel like Lemmy has been pretty chill. Most communities are small enough they’re just happy to have some kind engagement. They haven’t been deleting my post because my title wasn’t formatted correctly or because it didn’t perfectly fit one ultra-specific niche
Pretty much. At least Lemmy is a lot more like Reddit was when I started on Reddit (~2015), than Reddit is now.
The humor reminds me of early reddit. Very needy. Lots of Star Trek, Stargate and Linux. Of course there are a lot of differences too, but it does feel a little closer to the original techie reddit base.
Not really, no, but it is good in it’s own way.
No. Not even slightly. Fifteen years ago reddit was still far bigger and more active than the fediverse.
Here there’s barely any content today, back then I was regularly getting 30+ pages deep into reddit when I couldnt sleep most nights, and I wasn’t even close to the end of that days content.Yeah and here I can scroll through all the new content in less than an hour.
Lemmy now is like when Reddit was like slashdot
Which was when Slashdot was like BBS before the Eternal September
I wonder how the shift from Reddit to Lemmy compares to the shift from Digg to Reddit.
Lemmy has a much smaller user base
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I forgot about Digg. Whatever happened to it?
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They had a site redesign to garner more monetization.
They also had power users who dominated post and drove the control of conversation. (MrBabyMan?)
The redesign elevated paid advertisers to the front page, masquerading as real articles.
Suddenly 1/4th of the top content was fluff articles not very subtly advertising shit
No, Reddit 10 years ago was the kind of place where people who knew things would correct people who didn’t.
Pretty much all social media today, including Lemmy, are now places where people who don’t know things correct people who do.
t. someone that doesn’t know anything that gets corrected all the time.
You couldn’t be more wrong you stupid idiot. /s
The internet as a whole was so much better for this.
Free speech and exchanging of idea and views was great. Most of my time on YouTube was spent looking at out and out discussions, back and forth, about religion. Which seeing as I went to a religious school I didn’t really have anyone to talk to that was very helpful for me.
Now people come to a conclusion and stick with it. But they also get encouraged by people doing exactly the same upvoting their view and down voting others. Evidence doesn’t matter. Reddit and redditors used to encourage upvoting alternative opinions.
People are going so far as to want certain views banned just because it isn’t their view. It’s scary how much people want to be restricted. Reddit used to be great for free speech but now its terrible. I was hoping Lemmy would, by it’s federated nature, be an exchange of different ideas and views but if anything it is a lot worse. (I actually find the mods to largely be okay. But the people are terrible, worse than reddit is at this moment it time)
So no Lemmy is nothing like reddit of old at all. I’d love to go back to reddit from 10 years ago.
Well said on all counts.
Reddit was never perfect, but in my 12+ years there, it was never as bad as Lemmy has been the entire time I’ve been here.
Basically I’m only still active here because Reddit’s mobile app is such trash and Lemmy is more convenient to browse from a phone.
It’s a 50/50 chance that something I post gets downvoted to hell and it doesn’t seem to matter what I actually said.
On the bright side, I’ve seen more posts calling it out lately, so maybe things can start to turn around.
I was hoping that by being such a small and growing community I could help influence it’s growth.
But watching how incorrect things about economy/business are upvoted, I’m getting sick of being down voted for having an economics degree and attempting to share some knowledge.
For me its the growing extremist stances and ragebait articles, now that its got more users, the horrendous lack of moderation is starting to show
Yeah, my main sub I participated in back on Reddit was /r/AcademicBiblical (also went to a religious-ish school growing up).
There’s nothing like that sub here, and honestly even the sub itself isn’t quite what it used to be when I pop back over to look in from time to time.
The web is just a different sort of place from what it used to be.
Are you sure it isn’t just a case of you having seen it a thousand time now and can spot bullshitters and couldn’t do it a decade ago?
No. I used to abuse Cunningham’s Law liberally. It’s become next to worthless these days.
Edit: Literally here’s an example of people down voting and trying to correct true information: https://lemmy.world/comment/10376712
It still works in highly technical areas.
Or if you’re a machinist someone will tell you the right way to do something as soon as they see you have the material. By the time you have it in the machine 6 other guys will have told you the right way to do it in six wildly different ways. Someone will suggest Vaseline instead of coolant. Someone will start bitching about Haas. Someone will insist that it’s only possible with thru spindle coolant, regardless of depth. None of which matters because your code won’t post to the 40 year old 3 axis mill you’re using and the engineer gave you a print with impossible geometry anyway. GEE I DON’T KNOW TERRY DO YOU THINK THIS HUNK OF STEEL LOOKS LIKE YOUR PART YET
Anyway my point is sometimes there’s more than one right answer, even if everyone says they have the one right answer.
Sometimes technical specifications limit you to a specific set of right answers, but the right answers you get are for different set ups entirely.
and sometimes, the circumstances surrounding your failure were given to you by the engineer in a state that was destined to fail, whether they knew it or not.
Not really, it’s way more decentralized than reddit.
I guess I meant more of community/user feel? Whenever I browse reddit (w/o account, don’t hurt me) the popular is full of AITA, AIO and such.
What’s AIO?
I’ve always hated AITA sooooo much. Everything is so fake and the idiot comments make me want to gouge my eyes out.
And there is a lot less users.
“users” is plural and countable so it should be “are” and “fewer”
Context.
Here it’s being used a singular group of things.
Like, a herd of cows is a singular thing made up of lots of individual things.
If you lost 50% of the herd, you wouldn’t say you had fewer herd
You’d say you have less of a herd.
But language is what we make it, it’s why the rules are blurry
Your argument is supporting the comment you’re replying to. “Users” is equivalent to “cows” in your example, not “herd”. If you lost 50% of the herd, you’d still have a herd of cows, but you’d have fewer cows, just like there are a lot fewer users in this instance.
Herd is closer to userbase. Lemmy has a userbase; Reddit has a userbase. Lemmy’s userbase has a lot fewer users than Reddit’s.
“users” is a singular group in this context.
“There are a lot fewer users” is the proper grammar. You wouldn’t say “There is users online”, you’d say “There are users online” because users is plural. “There is a user online” would be singular.
It’s not, but even if it was, the original comment would be grammatically incorrect.You wouldn’t say “You have a lot less herd”. “Less of a herd” would work, “Your herd is a lot smaller” would work better, but it was written originally as though ‘users’ was a collection of individuals, not a userbase as a singular item.
Both may be correct depending on the speaker. English has exceptions to everything… I learned that from a European.
Here it’s being used a singular group of things
It’s not singular, “users” is plural. “A group of users” is singular, but “users” is referring to multiple individuals. The correct verb to use with users is are.
For example, you would be incorrect to say “There is users online”, but you could say “There is a group of users online”.
You really need to be ‘that’ guy
I was doing this on Reddit 10 years ago, so…
You keep at it, buddy
And a lot less people posting “what’s something that used to be cool, but isn’t now?” posts every single day. It’s gotten to the point where I can usually guess what the top answer will be.
Mm yes, reddit started with out with tens of thousands of users over night.
I think the situation here on lemmy is pretty comparable to early reddit. People forget it started out as mostly a nerdy programmer centric site as well, and then grew from there. It’s a bit jarring to see people here insisting on artificially creating communities and pushing/guiliting people into posting more just to bring the numbers up. “the narwhal bacon’s at midnight” (although it was always cringe) started because reddit was a niche site less known than 4chan to begin with, so it was just a nonsensical dog whistle.
Do I miss the focused subreddits around specific topics? Sure, but I also think they will come naturally with time if lemmy survives just as they did with reddit. And the whole reason we’re here today to begin with is because of an unsatiable hunger for growth.
Eh, if you go back far enough, there was a time when reddit had fewer users than the fediverse has now.
I was on reddit 10 years ago. Different vibes than old reddit for sure. Still way less users on Lemmy.
not really. earliest days of reddit didnt even have subreddits.
lemmy cant be reddit 10 years ago, because the internet has changed in that time too
Yeah, but reddits more than 10 years old…
Here’s an article from 2013 talking about subs
Subreddits were added in 08. The great Digg migration was 2010. I feel old.
DAE member Digg? I member that.
I was part of the great Digg migration and now the great Reddit migration…
Same. I also remember when everyone moved to Digg from Stumbleupon
I liked stumbleupon. It feels like they are less website to stumbleupon anymore
Same here, my reddit account is 15 years old
Same here. Thought you looked familiar!
Shit, I remember Fark.
Which was basically what reddit was when it started, fark just stayed that way. I think it’s even still going…
Pfft, kids these days - I remember usenet.
Try to tell a kid about BBS boards nowadays and they start singing about something called a BBL Drizzy…
My local BBS was great, but when the provider became an ISP, the BBS became a ghost town because everyone went to IRC and Usenet.
That ISP was also the local jerky company. Dad made the Jerky, son ran the modem pool. I miss the 90s.
Damn, skipped right over Slashdot.
What’s up with how toxic comments are on /. these days?
I never had a Fark account but I remember following them religiously. I remember something about them crowdfunding an arena name for a day about an unsolicited finger in the ass.
remember when image macros took over the whole thing?
It’s probably better than old Reddit.
Just keep in mind you’re participating in a federation of communities controlled by the many. Although Lemmy.world is probably the largest by far.
