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  • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    Kind of. Reddit 15+ years ago still had a larger user base than Lemmy did, but it feels kind of close to how Reddit did back then. Lemmy still needs some work, it has a long way to go, but I do like it so far.

  • @Mango@lemmy.world
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    1611 months ago

    No, absolutely not. Lemmy is held together by “it’s not Reddit” while Reddit was “here’s this cool stuff!”

  • @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4411 months ago

    No. I’d say the whole internet felt different 10+ years ago. Including this, what people are on here and how they behave. And I’d day the average intellect is different. But that could also be me growing up.

    • Not a replicant
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      111 months ago

      I really enjoyed various communities on usenet. But most of my favouites moved to FB and usenet is now a cesspit of spam. I learned a hell of lot from alt.solar.pv and alt.energy.renewable, and made some great connections via aus.motorcycles. But I wouldn’t bother going there today, even in one of the few remaining feeds.

    • @Wrench@lemmy.world
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      111 months ago

      It’s different but the same. We used to get hit by the conservative bury brigades. Now, we get people actually trying to steer the narrative with somewhat thoughtful bad faith arguments.

      It’s far more insidious now, and takes vigilance to shut down.

      • @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de
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        11 months ago

        I don’t remember that many political arguments. At least not this way conservative<->progressive. I remember them mostly from the comment section of news articles and YouTube videos (since YT has been a thing) and of course Twitter. But less so from dedicated discussion places like forums and such. But my perspective is probably skewed. I wasn’t really part of early Reddit. And I’m not American and we have/had different discussions here. Well… Maybe I wasn’t that interested in political discussions on the internet when I was young(er). But the places I used to frequent were more focused on specific topics, technology and not about ideology (apart from free software ideology.)

        But trolling, flaming, baiting etc has been part of internet culture for a long time. I don’t remember how they called brigading before Reddit. I think that is a term I learned in the last few years.

      • @SorteKanin@feddit.dk
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        2211 months ago

        Eh, if you go back far enough, there was a time when reddit had fewer users than the fediverse has now.

      • @smackjack@lemmy.world
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        311 months ago

        And a lot less people posting “what’s something that used to be cool, but isn’t now?” posts every single day. It’s gotten to the point where I can usually guess what the top answer will be.

      • @HereIAm@lemmy.world
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        311 months ago

        Mm yes, reddit started with out with tens of thousands of users over night.

        I think the situation here on lemmy is pretty comparable to early reddit. People forget it started out as mostly a nerdy programmer centric site as well, and then grew from there. It’s a bit jarring to see people here insisting on artificially creating communities and pushing/guiliting people into posting more just to bring the numbers up. “the narwhal bacon’s at midnight” (although it was always cringe) started because reddit was a niche site less known than 4chan to begin with, so it was just a nonsensical dog whistle.

        Do I miss the focused subreddits around specific topics? Sure, but I also think they will come naturally with time if lemmy survives just as they did with reddit. And the whole reason we’re here today to begin with is because of an unsatiable hunger for growth.

        • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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          311 months ago

          Context.

          Here it’s being used a singular group of things.

          Like, a herd of cows is a singular thing made up of lots of individual things.

          If you lost 50% of the herd, you wouldn’t say you had fewer herd

          You’d say you have less of a herd.

          But language is what we make it, it’s why the rules are blurry

          • @KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
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            11 months ago

            Your argument is supporting the comment you’re replying to. “Users” is equivalent to “cows” in your example, not “herd”. If you lost 50% of the herd, you’d still have a herd of cows, but you’d have fewer cows, just like there are a lot fewer users in this instance.

            Herd is closer to userbase. Lemmy has a userbase; Reddit has a userbase. Lemmy’s userbase has a lot fewer users than Reddit’s.

            • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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              211 months ago

              Both may be correct depending on the speaker. English has exceptions to everything… I learned that from a European.

              • @deranger@sh.itjust.works
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                511 months ago

                “There are a lot fewer users” is the proper grammar. You wouldn’t say “There is users online”, you’d say “There are users online” because users is plural. “There is a user online” would be singular.

              • @KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
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                611 months ago

                It’s not, but even if it was, the original comment would be grammatically incorrect.You wouldn’t say “You have a lot less herd”. “Less of a herd” would work, “Your herd is a lot smaller” would work better, but it was written originally as though ‘users’ was a collection of individuals, not a userbase as a singular item.

          • @deranger@sh.itjust.works
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            11 months ago

            Here it’s being used a singular group of things

            It’s not singular, “users” is plural. “A group of users” is singular, but “users” is referring to multiple individuals. The correct verb to use with users is are.

            For example, you would be incorrect to say “There is users online”, but you could say “There is a group of users online”.

    • n0cteOP
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      411 months ago

      I guess I meant more of community/user feel? Whenever I browse reddit (w/o account, don’t hurt me) the popular is full of AITA, AIO and such.

      • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        111 months ago

        What’s AIO?

        I’ve always hated AITA sooooo much. Everything is so fake and the idiot comments make me want to gouge my eyes out.

  • @misk@sopuli.xyz
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    211 months ago

    Lemmy now is in many ways already the same as reddit is today when you consider social dynamics. This is mostly due to how all of social media using traditional formulas devolved into competition in unproductive cynicism.

    Check out Tildes if you want to see how reddit was back then, it’s the closest thing.

    • spriteblood
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      511 months ago

      Check out Tildes

      I would if it wasn’t invite-only :/

      Half the reason I was on reddit was to engage in discussions, and that’s largely lost if I’m just scrolling through an unfiltered news feed with no way to participate.

  • @JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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    -2311 months ago

    Reddit didn’t have the communism and far left propaganda that lemmy has, so it’ll be an uphill battle to clean that shit up enough to get lemmy even remotely close to where Reddit was 10 years ago.

    • dinckel
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      1411 months ago

      It’s so fascinating, how some people create their own narrative, in their echochamber of a head, and then project it onto everyone else.

      Please go touch some grass

    • @GeneralVincent@lemmy.world
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      111 months ago

      Incredible what it looks like outside your bubble huh? Lemmy has different instances so everyone can build a community without nearly as much potential censorship like Reddit. This is the community that naturally formed, so maybe what you call “far left propaganda” the rest of the world calls “normal”

    • Corroded
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      611 months ago

      That’s part of the reason I am here. You could just go to some place like Exploding-Heads but there’s a reason so many instances defederate from them

  • LCP
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    1311 months ago

    Lemmy’s far smaller than Reddit was 10 or even 15 years ago.

    There are some good foundations in place, but there’s a loonnnggg way to go before we’re seeing platform maturity.

  • Sabata11792
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    1011 months ago

    Kinda got the same small in crowd vibe as old 2012 reddit, but less big and more jaded.

    It’s big enough to binge for a few hours but you do run out and got to wait, I was in withdraw for a little. Mods, mods never change.

  • @philluminati@lemmy.ml
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    1711 months ago

    I’ve been on Reddit for 16 years and I’d say yes it’s very similar. Like Reddit back then it was very tech focused and quite liberal.

    I do think people are a bit more vicious online these days than they used to be and a bit more polarised.

    From a content perspective there used to be more blog content than tech news content, but it’s fairly similar. What I like about Lemmy is it’s far less commercial and the conversation is more genuine.

    However I don’t think Lemmy will become Reddit in 15 years, I think it may languish in eternal obscurity and I’m actually okay with that.

    Reddit exploded when Digg crumbled and the same could happen with Reddit crumbling but idk, there seems to be some stickiness to Internet websites these days.

    • @proudblond@lemmy.world
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      1011 months ago

      Regarding stickiness, perhaps it’s because the internet is ubiquitous now. Fifteen years ago, those of us on Fark and Digg and Reddit came to the internet for a lot of things. Notably, we kept in touch with friends that way (MySpace and Facebook) and in particular, we got our news that way. My parents were incredulous forever and still kinda are that I “don’t watch the evening news.” Now everyone uses it for everything. The big difference is that the early adopters are naturally more open to change because they adopted something that was a change. The rest of the population was slowly pushed into it. Now they don’t want to leave the sites that they’re used to (e.g. Reddit and Facebook) because they aren’t that open to change in the first place.

  • @hperrin@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Pretty much. At least Lemmy is a lot more like Reddit was when I started on Reddit (~2015), than Reddit is now.

    • @BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world
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      311 months ago

      The humor reminds me of early reddit. Very needy. Lots of Star Trek, Stargate and Linux. Of course there are a lot of differences too, but it does feel a little closer to the original techie reddit base.

  • @breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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    5111 months ago

    not really. earliest days of reddit didnt even have subreddits.

    lemmy cant be reddit 10 years ago, because the internet has changed in that time too