• @Eiri@lemmy.world
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    67 months ago

    I dunno if it’s the weirdest but “pronunciation” is pretty weird.

    Why is it “pronUnciation” but “pronOUnce”?

      • @Eiri@lemmy.world
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        57 months ago

        If it consoles you, I can explain the reason for that one.

        They both come from the verb restaurer (to restore). Restaurant being the present participle in this case. In French, “ant” is equivalent to the English suffix “ing”.

        And restaurateur is “one who restores”.

      • Skua
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        67 months ago

        I assume it’s about the apparently enormous consonant cluster at the ends, which is very rare in English. We have consonant clusters, yes, but not usually with five at once. Although it’s actually only three, since “ng” and “th” are one consonant sound each, we just write them with two letters

        • @1rre@discuss.tchncs.de
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          it’s very rare in any language, complexity at the start is not uncommon, but complexity at the end is, also the ordering of the consonant types and the fact there’s two fricatives in a row at the end, it’s not just a word that not only has no place existing, but also one that should be so unstable it’d change to something less complex in decades at most, yet it’s stayed pretty consistent for a while

          It’s also actually 4 consonants as there’s an unwritten k in many accents, or ng is pronounced as ŋg in others, so stɹɛŋ(k|g|∅)θs

          • xigoi
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            17 months ago

            I’d like to hear someone pronounce it as [stɹɛŋgθs] without choking.

          • Skua
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            17 months ago

            the fact there’s two fricatives in a row at the end

            Isn’t that the case for basically any plural noun with a singular form ending in a fricative in English? Paths, months, depths, loaves, dwarves etc. There are also verbs ending with fricatives that do it when in the right tense, like moves, breathes, leaves, or triumphs

  • @RBWells@lemmy.world
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    87 months ago

    I think “once” is spelled strangely. In Spanish it’s 11 and pronounced as you would expect.

    In English the same string of letters is pronounced wonss. Plus the whole once twice thrice for one time two times three times is odd, though at least consistent but then no fourse or anything it just stops.

  • Call me Lenny/Leni
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    157 months ago

    Eye.

    We take it for granted now, but I’m sure we all questioned the word at one point in our lives, the shortest word guaranteed to fool any child who is an intuitive spelling pro if they don’t already know the word’s spelling.

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        37 months ago

        By all accounts, “one” should rhyme with “stone”, but bear in mind that we also have “done” which is pretty close, as well as “gone” which is pretty out-there by comparison. (This suggests the compromise pronunciation of “scone” should be “scun”, but on the other hand…)

        There’s also that in some accents / dialects, the word “own” fills that particular pronunciation niche, necessitating an alternative pronunciation for the number.

        The theory is that a non-standard regional pronunciation is the, uh, one that caught on everywhere else.

        Fun fact about “two”: It’s the “w” making the vowel sound, and the “o” is silent (compare Latin “duo”). Even more strangely, it’s “w” that makes the vowel sound in “who” as well! It was originally spelled “hwo” until all “hw” words were forced to conform to all the other modifiers where the h goes second. It’s also hwy / why the h sounds out first in old-fashioned pronunciations of words like whip / hwip.

    • @KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee
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      127 months ago

      Fun anecdote, in DC the east/west streets are named A St, B St, C St, and so on. But not i street. Capital i could be confused with L Street, so all the signs are written “Eye St”

      • Call me Lenny/Leni
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        37 months ago

        Ewe, though it’s spelled weird, does at least fit its context. When looking into specific gendered terms for species, someone could expect a few weird ones.

        On a side note, I find it funny how the word ewe is banned from several places because all it’s ever used for is to replace the “you” in things like an F-bomb. It’s like an accidental/indirect swear word.

        “Hey bro, what’s a female sheep called?”

        “Oh that’s easy, it’s ew–” ban hammer crashes down out of nowhere

  • FlashMobOfOne
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    7 months ago

    I’m a big fan of the following weird words:

    Indubitably

    Discombobulated

  • Melllvar
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    487 months ago

    Be, is, are, was, am, were, being, been… are all the same word.

    • @Lauchs@lemmy.world
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      87 months ago

      “To be” averbs, at least in romance languages usually have a bunch of different forms. “To have” usually too but English is a bit of an exception there.

    • @Phen@lemmy.eco.br
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      27 months ago

      And it has multiple meanings. “you are sick” can mean that you’re currently sick but can also mean that you’re a sick person. Other languages usually differentiate the verb in those two cases

    • @viralJ@lemmy.world
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      57 months ago

      “be” is an irregular verb in all languages, so it’s not unique to English. Bonus fun fact: Russian doesn’t have the verb “to be”.

      • @kureta@lemmy.ml
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        Not in Turkish. It is “olmak” but the actual “to be” as it is used in “I am, they were, etc.” is, now unused “imek”. it has become a suffix and it is completely regular. Just i + person suffix.

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        Yes, and I feel like it’s even more irregular in Russian than just not existing. It’s not used in present tense as a copula, so in most cases where you would expect it in English. However it absolutely exists – быть – and is used like normal verbs in both past and future tense.

        For example: «я здесь» – “I am here” (same word order, but this sentence has no verb), but «я был здесь» – “I was here”

        And in the cases where it is used in present tense, there is a single conjugation regardless of subject: есть (in contrast to all other verbs, I assume at least, which all have distinct conjugations for 1/2/3rd person singular/plural).

        A simple example for this would probably be sentences with “there is”, affirming the existence of something, as in “there is a bathroom” – «ванная есть». Contrived example for sure but I can’t think of something better right now.

        • @Nibodhika@lemmy.world
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          27 months ago

          Was going to reply that, it’s not that Russian doesn’t have it, it just gets omitted in the most common form.

          But also one interesting thing is that from the examples you gave I can know your gender, because the verb to be is gendered in the past in Russian, which is very unique, I don’t know of any other language where verbs are gendered.

    • WFH
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      67 months ago

      “To be” being highly irregular il a common feature of a lot of Indo-European languages. But there’s worse. In Spanish, “ser” and “estar” both mean “to be”, but have wildly different meanings and cannot be substituted for one another.

  • Chris
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    87 months ago

    Dyslexia - it’s hard to spell even if you’re not dyslexic.

  • @radix@lemmy.world
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    1247 months ago

    queue

    Most “Q” words are weird to start with, then just adding a bunch of silent vowels at the end doesn’t make it any less so.