Looper when they’re “torturing” the one guy and his body parts are disappearing one after another.
The whole Looper premise doesn’t make sense.
Criminals in the future send people back in time to get whacked. If you get an abnormally large payout, that means you whacked your future self and are now retired.
Why have someone kill themselves with a large payoff? Why retire them? If they’re retired in the future, why have them killed?
You have present day hitmen, A, B, and C. Future victims, a, b, and c.
A -> a, B -> b, C -> c results in stupid large payouts and retired killers.
A -> b, B -> c, C -> a has normal payoffs and no retirements.
Still doesn’t explain why you wanted a, b, and c dead in the first place.
Looper is a great LOOKING movie, those shotguns were on point! Just don’t go thinking about it for more than 5 minutes.
Their concept of time travel is definitely unorthodox compared to other time travel movies. One of the main characters literally said not to think too much about it.
Everything else was pretty much explained by the protag.
He did mentioned that his line of work doesn’t attract forward thinking people. This is quite realistic, I mean, have you seen how a lot of people (and companies) sacrificed long term benefits for short ter ones? It’s also posible that they think they can beat that system.
Their future selves are killed to tie up loose ends. The change in power dynamic with Rainmaker’s takeover definitely plays a role. This is actually a common trope in crime dramas (and probably also in real world).
It definitely is not a perfect movie, but it’s a damn good one to me. I definitely think Joseph-Gorden Lewitt and Emily Blunt lack chemistry, and the sex scene was forced, but I guess it’s somewhat realistic someone living in a farm out of nowhere all by themselves can get so horny…
The part that pisses me off. “We can’t kill people in the future because the forensics are too good.” Then armed men come for him in the future. They can’t kill him or they’ll get caught, why are the guns a threat?
Can still shoot him? Could be stupid and kill him anyway?
Still sucks to die even if they get caught
I didn’t like that movie, but do people really analyse movies like this as their watching them? I don’t usually unless I’m really bored, or afterwards if I really liked it.
I’m trained in literary analysis and criticism, so, yeah, I’ll sit there thinking “well, lets see how they explain this…”
The best fiction actually does.
Have you watched Primer?
Primer is excellent, and a great double feature with The Fountain.
The #1 thing to know about the Fountain though is that it’s super hard to get unless you read the companion graphic novel.
To clarify, do you mean it wouldn’t make sense that his body part would dissapear as they were severed in an alternative past. Or do you mean it doesn’t belong on the plot/add to the story?
Not Op, but…
Spoiler for the torture scene in Looper
At the start of that scene, they’re inflicting harm that would still allow the dude to do everything he’s done so far, just scarred. And the scars are appearing on his future self. It makes a kind of weird sense, if we stretch our imagination.
But they cross well past anything reasonable into injuries that would have just made anyone’s past self decide to retire and hide out in the woods in Florida.
It made no sense at all by the end, that his future self was somehow still working for them.
The first. Those injuries were done decades ago, and yet they are just appearing now to the surprise of the character.
If that’s how the time travel “works” in this universe somehow, then Bruce Willis disappearing at the end contradicts this.
Chicago fire. Stella and Severide being “away” longer than expected. Out of the blue ignoring the other one. I know the actors had other work to do, but it was sloppy writing.
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The scene where Al Pacino gets slapped by a big black guy wearing only a cowboy hat and a jockstrap in Cruising (1980)
The twist ending of Now You See Me. Just stupid.
have you seen the sequel? barf
Nope. Nothing about the original made me want to see more of it.
This Scene from Designated Survivor. I’m still chuckling when thinking about it.
😂
The scene in Pulp Fiction where Butch kills Vincent.
I am pretty fucking sure it’s actually a dream/imagined scenario by Butch, simply because when it ends, it cuts back to Butch in his car saying “that’s how you’re gonna beat ‘em, Butch. They’re just gonna keep underwstimatin’ ya” as he pulls up to the apartment. But then, instead of getting to go in and grab his watch as he imagined, he instead runs into Marcellus in the middle of the street, leading to that whole thing with the rapists.
He does end up getting his watch, but after he and Marcellus part ways. Vincent never actually dies.
Except for the fact that Vincent is only there without Jules because Jules quit. And Vincent was in the toilet because he was constipated because he’s a heroin addict.
If Jules hadn’t quit, Marcellus would not have been there. And Butch wouldn’t have known about any of those developments.
Although to back your theory up, Jules would’ve never left for doughnuts.
There’s also a the recurring plot that every time Vicent goes to the bathroom something bad happens.
A lot of scenes are just thinly veiled commercials - why are we spending so much time looking at the front of a brand-new car the characters are getting into? It’s always awkward and takes away from the scene.
In Prometheus at the start… right until the very end.
I will never stop calling any scene where an object is moving towards people and they run directly away from it while it’s gaining on them as “the Prometheus school of running away.” This was only slightly less stupid than trying to outrun a train…on the tracks.
“Hey, alien planet we’ve never been on before. Let’s take our helmets off.”
“Hey our map guy got LOST inside an underground tunnel and tried to pet an alien snake and now he’s infected.”
“This medical machine is configured for men. Caesarian mode is on the left.”
I call the movie Fuckwits In Space for these and many more reasons.
Expecting humans in a sci-fi monster movie not to be cocky before their sudden yet inevitable demise is kind of cheating.
I don’t understand the last point.
PS I really really like Prometheus, so I’m biased
I liked it’s world-building and greater lore implications for the Aliens universe, but I can still admit it has flaws and pacing issues
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Drop the scene from deadpool and wolverine where they chop up a hundred deadpools. It’s cheap cgi at that. The animations at the end were pulled straight from a video game
In Memento
Spoiler about Clothing
He just puts on someone else’s expensive tailored suit, and it magically re-tailors itself to fit him perfectly.
That’s not how fabric or thread works. And it was deeply disorienting in a film that is otherwise careful to ensure that details like that matter and are reasonable.
What? The suit clearly does not fit him. The dead man is bigger than him, so it’s over sized. It’s even mentioned by multiple characters that it doesn’t quite fit.
The suit clearly does not fit him.
You and I remember this film very differently. I could swear it was excellently tailored suit in a number of really close up shots, early in the film. To the point where I thought the film was telling me
A lie that Memento seemed to be telling the audience
“This is absolutely his suit. Look how well it fits. Look how expensive it is. There’s no way that what is happening here is as simple as he took this off of a dead mobster.”
That suit had absolutely been tailored to his body. I understand that actors want to look great, and so I figure they let him wear a suit that fit for most of the film.
After the reveal
Memento Spoiler
that it’s not his suit,
they do have some lines about it not fitting, which felt very dishonest, after the earlier close-ups.
I would have been satisfied with a throw away line of dialogue about the suit not fitting before the reveal. I would have laughed at it (the suit clearly fits great in almost every scene), but it at least would have made the reveal cool instead of silly.
I would have also settled for (and I expected) a scene where he gets the suit trailored properly. But if I recall, there was no reasonable way to fit such a scene. Which I get. I’m not saying this film would have been better by addressing my pedantic complaint.
I’m not really mad that actors get to wear clothes that fit - it was just a stand out moment in an otherwise seamless (pun absolutely intended) film.
ever see cowboys vs aliens? Daniel Craig puts on a dead cowboys clothes and it fits like it was painted on lol
Lol. I noticed that too. But I expected less from Cowboys vs Aliens, so I wasn’t as confused by it.
In episode 17, when Commander Taggart is about to escape the neutron field in the omega-13, he used the auxiliary of deck B… But in the next episode, the schematic shows that deck has been totally vaporized. I was just wondering, do you think that’s a continuity error, or do you think there’s a justifiable reason for it?
This feels like a murderbot reference, but I haven’t read them all
Never give up, never surrender
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You are our last hope.
Lost. All of it.
Frustrated they never showed the polar bears backstory including his work as a scientist with a gambling problem and a fractured relationship with his son.
Walt?
Pawse…Breaking Bear?
Abed:
It’s the first season of Lost on DVD.Pierce:
That’s the meaning of Christmas?Abed:
No. It’s a metaphor. It represents lack of pay-off.[…]
Abed:
I get it. The meaning of Christmas is the idea that Christmas has meaning. And it can be whatever we want. For me, it used to mean being with my mom. Now it means being with you guys. Thanks, Lost.
The whole UFO scene in “Life of Brian”.
Maybe not for the plot (since it’s never referenced or brought up ever again in the film) but I think it does work thematically:
This would be the one real miraculous event in Brian’s life. If anything, you would expect that a man who fell from a tower, got picked up by a flaming ball, and returned safely to the ground would be hailed as a holy person by all witnesses.
Instead, nobody gives a fuck and in the next couple of scenes Brian becomes a holy figure through entirely unrelated and mundane means.
Yeah, my main problem is with the whole “never mentioned again” thing. As it is, you could as well just leave it out.
Ant-Man
spoiler
The first Ant Man had this rule where any objects that are shrunk will stay as the weight they originally were. Yet Hank Pym carries around a shrunken tank on a keychain! Scandalous!
Comic book movies are cheating at this game.
Did they explain why in endgame a pym particles vial is only used once per person? While in other ant-man movies a vial of pym particles can be used multiple times.
Yes, they didn’t have enough left because Hank Pym was dusted.
Remember when Scott was about to test the time machine? They have 2 vials to use. He accidentally shrunk himself and he said they only have 1 left for the test. The 2 vials are full before they used it. He used a full vial of pym particles just to shrink down.
Because they have to shrink down to the quantum realm and come back. It uses more. It’s also never made clear how many particles are in the vials or if they’re full or how many a normal shrinking takes. But it is established multiple times that they have a limited supply and only enough to the job. Also, it’s a comic book movie.
One can surmise it’s actually a life-sized model kit tank made out of cheap plastic, akin to how it works in Ground Defense Force! Mao-Chan.
But it drove through a concrete wall!
It’s a really well made toy tank?
Or a very badly made wall…
Tofu dreg construction, perhaps.
Wrll there is also a scene in one of the movies where a plastic thomas the tank engine toy gets huge and crushes a police car. The toy that should jot weigh more than 200g crushes a car …
didn’t he “refine/improve” the process or something?
I think one of the theories is that Hank doesn’t actually know how Pym particles work and it’s basically magic. Because if you watch it keeping weight in mind none of it makes sense.