Slightly off topic but there was an escaped monkey around and people would never report it until they were sure it was gone, they didn’t want it caught.
Its part of the western tradition. Bonnie and Clyde for example.
PS. I’m not american.
They are believed to have murdered at least nine police officers and four civilians.
Yes, and Bonnie and Clyde also robbed banks and destroyed mortgages, freeing people from their debts. I have no idea if that’s true, but that’s the myth
John Dillinger had his fans too. I recall going to a wax museum in Indiana dedicated to him. There was a display with an electric chair in it.
Who says this and what makes them think this phenomenon is exclusive to the US?
Che Guevara, Julius Ceasar and Galileo are household names globally and martyrdom is–in the words of religious leaders everywhere–“a whole thing, y’know”
Just look how some people still see the civil war as the “war of northern aggression”, and how they still treat so-called “heroes” of the south.
You can see it in our media, even comic books. The Punisher is wanted by law enforcement all the time. Just look at the United Health Care shooting. Guy does what the Punisher does and he instantly becomes an American hero.
Jesse James.
Billy the Kid.
Jeffery Dahmer.
Charles Manson.
Al Capone.
Baby Face Nelson.
And many, many more.
Out of all these, though, the only one I have seen still be idolized in some capacity is Dahmer. Women seem to love him, despite the fact he was gay. And a cannibal.
To that extent, Trump
I still think that guy needs to go fuck off a cliff, but he fits the premise right?
Do people really idolize dahmer?
Yes
Bonnie and Clyde
also the most prominent idolized today isn’t Dahmer; it’s the guy who just got elected for president
Bonnie and Clyde! Billy the Kid! I haven’t yet met the cute got girl who doesn’t have a list of favorite serial killers!
The rap genre
Well classic rap.
Today’s rap doesn’t have as much bragging and flexing. Not to say it doesn’t happen, it’s just not as significant as classic rap.
Today’s rap doesn’t have as much bragging and flexing
What rap are you listening to🤨? And what do you define as classic rap?
Yeah today’s rap definitely has bragging and flexing, it’s just sort of flanderized from “I’m a thug who is tough, fight hard to get what I’ve got, look at me now” to “I’ve got money, I get women, I get fucked up”
Hehehe
The entire eastern genre
the entire western genre
Hehehe
Is it just america? robin hood. guy fawkes.
Ned Kelly is an Australian icon, primarily known for an armoured shoot out with the cops.
Guy fawks is British
“is it just America? Guy Fawkes” means “is it just america? Guy Fawkes is an example of an outlaw idolized by Americans who is not himself an American”
Yes, that is the point
I’d love to hear where you think Robin Hood is from
I thought both were from the uk.
They are
Yeah I can’t refute stinkys comment without actually living there or at least having a friend or something I stay in close contact with or something.
“is it just America? Guy Fawkes” means “is it just america? Guy Fawkes is an example of an outlaw idolized by Americans who is not himself an American”
yeah I thought he was idolized by ukians and maybe europeans.
From da 'hood, obviously.
Guy Fawkes isn’t idolised, the festival is about burning him alive and even if you don’t agree with that his reasons for doing what he did were shit
Ah. I guess V for vendetta made me think it was celebrating him.
That was an alternate history where he was successful and celebrated.
Brazil has Lampião and Padre Ciço. … Though Ciço is less ‘criminal’ and more ‘heretic’. He’s considered a saint by many nevertheless.
The Oklahoma Sooners, settled in the territory sooner than the enactment of the law allowing them to do so, thereby giving them an advantage over the law-abiders in claiming the most valuable acreage.
They’re idolized? I would’ve probably been an abider ☹️
There is an entire HUGE university in Oklahoma known as the sooners. So yeah, idolized.
The guy who shot that CEO, is probably the most recent example…
Billy the Kid.
Bonnie and Clyde
