context also heavily welcome.
I reacted to a comment to a meme about parents having the power and the right to withhold what their children’s privileges relating to some trauma I’ve got.
The comment I replied to went:
We take away what each kid values the most. Works well. If they complain or don’t stop whatever got them in trouble we start adding days.
In hindsight, taking the context, it’s kinda reasonable, but I was triggered by the “what each kid values the most” remembering a painful part of my childhood, which lead me to be way less open to my mother.
Wouldn’t that end up with a kid who values nothing, not even their own life?
My mom used a similar technique to get me to do what she wants me to do, and I ended up, well, the way I am right now. I hide a lot of things from her, and if necessary, only pretend to show interest in things I don’t give a damn about just to have a semblance of a personality. Worse, even if I die right after this comment, I wouldn’t mind one bit.
Admittedly, that last part is totally unnecessary.
That response became my most controversial and downvoted for understandable reasons.
One has -45 and that was when I told someone, who I since blocked, that I wasn’t going to look up something I knowingly talked about because of such thing existing. Which was knowing about Steam allowing people in the EU to re-sell their games. And they replied to my post being all like “SOURCE?” like as if it was some big fucking debate. Like dude, I wouldn’t be saying shit if I knew what I was mentioning was a pure lie. I knew what I was talking about and people always think they’re being coy by asking for sources and shit. I’m not here to hold your hand, the ball was in your court.
A lot of the other massively downvoted comments of mine, were just me responding to some of the low-life bastards that frequent some instances that come at me with their lame ass responses. Whom I also blocked because I’m not going to entertain their shit as long as they want me to. They just don’t like people talking back to them.
The “source” request is also annoying because it’s like, dude we’re just chatting here, no I’m not going to respond like this is some academic debate.
When I read “source” it screams, “reality is apparently not reality unless a source that I like tells me so”
Probably when I expressed support for Harris. As a “lib” I support transphobia and genocide, you see.
No, the democrats will embrace transphobia the next election cycle so as to unsuccessfully court the right and alienate the left (a strategy which netted them a solid 1 out of the past three elections, which is 1 more than Jill Stein). This cycle they went after undocumented immigrants.
Sure.
The left and infighting - name a more iconic duo (IMPOSSIBLE EDITION)
I’m sorry, but I can never be “infighting” with someone who is supporting an ongoing genocide. That’s always going to be outfighting.
Hey, that’s the spirit.
TIL that neoliberals are part of “the Left”.
It’s happening again
Leftist infighting is real, but this ain’t it.
Infighting would imply harris is a part of the left. She’s comfortably right wing by any measure. And there’s nothing wrong with that, it’s a valid political stance to take (not mine, but again, this is fine). Calling leftists disagreeing with harris leftist infighting is like calling the cold war leftist infighting.
I can’t prove it nowadays, but I once remarked that society should find a way for homeless people to be separated by how they became homeless.
The context was that homelessness is a spectrum and that being indiscriminate when doing anything related to the homeless downplays the enormous gap between forms of it. I’ve been on both sides of it before; I’ve technically been “homeless” (I’ve had a roof over my head for as long as I can remember, but it was often couch-hopping), as well as have done things related to the homeless. Sometimes I ask about it, I expect by now it might range between “I’m a teetotaler whose house burnt down and I’ve been on the streets ever since” to “I keep getting a home but keep losing it in shady gambles”. Surely homelessness is a case-by-case thing, right?
People are blind to these differences, however. To most outsiders, homelessness is just homelessness. From the outside, these things don’t come to mind when people are protective, so if you mention wanting to do it case-by-case, you feel the wrath of the population who I have seen seemingly insist I’m being discriminatory over victims of a sensitive topic. I think maybe a few hundred or so people weighed in against me. It was not only what many might call the most particularly severe example but also one of the earliest. The tragically “funny” thing is that it’s one of those things where most people immediately learn the reality of as soon as they become a victim of homelessness, actually interact with them, or even spend time in a psych ward like me because a lot of them turn themselves in because it means you’ll get care, so it becomes one of those things that’s said to be like a litmus test for if someone is genuinely associated with it versus someone who sees portrayals of it and tries to look like they are.
It’s almost as of there are archetypes for patients in hospitals due to common, middle of the bell curve occurrences of comorbidities. Example: diabetic dialysis patient with anemia and 1-2 amputations above/below the knee due to pernicious vascularization complications. No, that’s not your family member, that is a common scenario given the convergence of certain conditions.
Should medical professionals be indiscriminate here? Treat everyone like a dialysis patient? No. That sounds ridiculous because it is. People are wild and varied within every context including homelessness.
Here’s an archetype situation seen among the homeless population. A pernicious issue with lower extremity circulation occurs (due to diabetes, frostbite, infection left untreated) such that patient can no longer walk after receiving medical care (often amputation). Patient is also homeless and can’t just be discharged to street due to inability to walk. Patient needs to be placed, on Medicaid, in a nursing home. Patient is on the sexual predator list and thus no nursing home will allow them in their facility. Patient sits in hospital room taking up space, not receiving medical care because they no longer need any, waiting, for months. That hospital room is now a hotel room with medical professionals supplying room service.
Go to the sex offender registry and do a 3 mile radius search of your own address. Good odds you’ll find some, and more than you think you should. No address, then how do these guys get registered by their location?
It’s not as daily scenario, but a memorable one that happens every 3-6mos like clockwork. And those are just the homeless sex offenders coming in for medical treatment that cannot then just be discharged back to street.
People are not the same and should not be treated as such. You are not wrong there. Destroying children shouldn’t receive the same consideration for an apartment as someone living in their car due to a bit of bad luck.
This was probably all in the phrasing or maybe people just don’t understand the reality of the situation?
I worked for several years doing mobile therapy that included a significant amount of homeless outreach and crisis management. Everyone deserves to be housed, bottom line, but what it takes for that to happen is a complex situation
There’s the “xxx,xxx amount of homeless but xx,xxx,xxx amount of empty homes in america” statistic that people throw around. I forget the exact numbers but I’m pretty sure thats the scale, if not the take away is that you could literally give each homeless person a free house and still have millions of empty houses. But this would not solve homelessness, at least in the current system. The overwhelming majority would be back on the street fairly quickly. Even if you eliminate the need for mortgage there’s still the need for property taxation; if you eliminate that then communities start to get real shitty. Even if you eliminate that there’s still utility and food costs. Even if you eliminate that there’s still maintenance and not actively destroying the place.
Institutionalization isn’t necessarily the answer although in extreme cases it can be. We had supported rehabilitation programs that were pretty successful, basically apartments with staff that would keep tabs on you, help you budget, do resumes, help you get to drs appointments, make sure you took medications (but didn’t force you to unless there was a court order/probation situation and even then it wasn’t like a “force” situation although there was inherent coercion as not taking meds would be reported to po/court), apply for section 8, etc. you would stay there for a year or two and then move to a more independent placement once supports were in place.
There were also longer term programs for people who genuinely struggled and just couldn’t get that step down to work. These were similar but had less focus on connecting to services and were more akin to nursing homes with more psychiatric care
But then there were also more intensive residential programs we referred to for people with more serious mental illness or addiction issues
The issue, of course, was funding. We had like 32 beds in the short term and 11 in the long term. Funding was like 50% state funding, 20% grants, 30% donations and fundraising and the budgets were tight. Meanwhile the town probably had 30-50 actively homeless at any given point on top of whoever wasn’t in the program and another 50-100 with insecure housing. Even the intense programs, which generally had more secure state funding, still had an overall lack of beds and would have very long wait lists. Sad stuff.
That was about a decade ago now, I feel like it has to be worse now post Covid and trump. I can only imagine what the next 4 years will do to their funding
It was a post about how Google had been asked to take down links to websites selling black market hormonal transition drugs and I suggested that no one should be buy them from shady sources like that in the first place as those compounds are important enough to not just buy whatever you can find as a personal attempt to fix body dysphoria.
People just wanted to be upset.Though I have also been recently banned from upliftingnews for not being uplifted enough about basic stuff and had a mod tell me I don’t belong in their communities so I’m surprised anyone agrees with me ever apparently.
to be fair, the point of the community probably is to uplift people so if youre doing the opposite…
Haha I know I know. It just wasn’t very uplifting either.
This one
:O
r u a wizard
Here? Either an unpopular opinion or replying to a comment I misinterpreted. Nothing too bad. Reddit? I got banned from a sub because I disagreed with breeding dogs into messed up mutants that couldn’t breathe or bark right. Probably that one.
I made a comment about proton VPN being a L data miner and now we see the CEO bootlicking trump. Funny how that turned out
Probably when I debated with some kids that thought capitalism is the root cause of loneliness. My point was that loneliness was a condition of being alive- not a result of a system of government. Besides… There’s loneliness in communist countries too. Safe to say capitalism cased that? Shit… Even animals get lonely. I’m pretty sure animals don’t really have a concept of the inner workings of capitalism. And even if there is an anecdotal instance or two- it’s still a dumb thing to hang on capitalism.
There’s enough real shit you can pin on capitalism to argue its ineffectiveness. But loneliness?
Loneliness appeared the moment humans stopped living in tribes
Yep. And according to a lot of people on lemmy, that’s around when capitalism must have started.
A comment describing car ownership as a lifestyle choice… on the fuck cars muni.
I suggested that good music comes from republican administrations without clarifying that I was thinking about bands like Rage Against The Machine, System Of A Down, Dead Kennedys, etc.
I guess, if you declare that as good music. which is really subjective. but meh.
That’s an interesting way of thinking about that. Huh. Sone of my favorite bands too. So if we lived under a peaceful just administration then what? Constant peaceful melodies. Do we need a machine to rage against for great music.?? You may be onto something
Which is funny because Rage broke up when W Bush got elected.
My worst one was expressing doubt about all information we get regarding the Israel/Palestine conflict because it is definitely being used as a wedge to divide Americans and make us easier to manipulate. Context: the IDF found Super Evil Battle Plans on dead Hamas soldiers, instructing them to kill civilians. Because they need to be reminded that that’s their mission I guess.
My second worst one was saying that we shouldn’t euthanize every pit bull. Context: a pit bull attacked someone, and everyone in the thread thought the right move was to euthanize the whole breed.
My third worst one was saying that the Fahrenheit temperature scale is more useful for average people than Celsius. Context: shitpost about fahrenheit being a bad temperature scale
For the first one, yeah there’s a lot of missinformation going around and a very heavily politicized debate. On the one had Israel response is disproportionate and inhumane, on the other hand if you go back further enough they were attacked first (the day after being formed, so no chance of that attack being retaliation for something). At the end of the day I think both sides are at fault and supporting either is morally wrong, and claiming that you need to support one of them is a false dichotomy.
I’ve had similar arguments, people who hate pitbulls for some reason fail to see the stupidity in their argument. Last time I had this discussion the person was using an argument that would also be applicable to eliminating blacks in the USA, i.e. statistically pitbulls are disproportionately dangerous (low population vs high number of incidents). And refused to acknowledge that correlation does not imply causation, so the only possible explanation for that disparity was pitbulls are dangerous, not that assholes who mistreat their dogs and use them to fight prefer pitbulls (despite me showing studies concluding that race is not a good predictor for violence).
On this one I have to disagree, you think it’s more useful because it’s what you’re used to. For me that have never used it it’s a weird scale that has no bearing on anything. I’ve heard the argument of human comfort, but I’m comfortable from 59 to 77, and my wife prefers 73 to 86. I consider it cold below 50 and hot above 86. I have only gotten to 0 once in my life, but got temperatures above 100 every summer. If it was indeed a scale for human comfort 0 would be what most people consider comfortable, i.e. 21C or 70F, or the temperature where you can start to freeze to death (which I’m not sure but I think it’s around 5C or 41F), not an arbitrary low temperature that most of the world never gets to.
Regarding the first one, it really helps to read the case South Africa filed with the ICJ. It’s only about 80 pages, but it’s filled to the brim with evidence of “super evil battle plans” as you call them. You should really inform yourself on this conflict, it’s pretty significant.
Suggesting that the cold-blooded murder of an unarmed man is morally indefensible. We all know what I’m talking about.
That’s definitely a terrible take but there’s no reason to downvote it. I don’t think you’re trolling. You just have a different opinion and that’s fine.
What a world to live in where being against first-degree murder is a “terrible take”! But I agree about opinions. Personally I don’t even touch the downvote button.
It’s called an oligarchy. The people have no other choice than violence if they want to be heard. Maybe you don’t live in a failing democracy like we do. But we do, and we know that if we want change, we can’t use legal means
When I made a troll post about 09.11 and wine 9.11 release.
Something like: “wine 9.11 has landed” + some wtc attack picture with wine logo on it.
edit: And there was a reply to a comment about how the chinese communist army is the most peaceful and just army in the world. I just shared a picture of the Tiananmen Square ‘Tank Man.’ I got banned on lemmy.ml and downvoted to oblivion.
Yeah gaining massive downvotes on ml is like cheating in this “competition”, it’s so easy over there.
There was a Reddit post of a WWII picture of a blown up US artillery piece where the round detonated in the chamber and killed the crew.
I replied something like “Looks like they got a taste of their own medicine”.
While it still to this day gives me a chuckle, the reception was rather cold.
