• @kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2228 days ago

    Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead is better than Hamlet. Sure, it had the benefit of an extra couple of centuries of progress in art, but I think it still counts.

    • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Dr Strangelove parodying atomic terror movies like Fail Safe

      I legit didn’t know it was parodying something else. I thought it was just gallows humour.

      Nobody watches the other airliner movies, but at least with Airplane! you know you’re watching a parody.

      Edit: Per other people in this thread, apparently not.

    • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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      Dr. Strangelove was released before Fail Safe. The story goes that they were both being filmed around the same time and Kubrick used his pull with the studio to make sure Fail Safe was released later in the year.

      Seems a really odd thing to insist your parody is released before the movie it’s parodying. And I don’t think there were all that many movies about the terror of nuclear war until after the Cuban missile crisis. It takes a couple of years to make a movie and Dr. Strangelove came out less than two years after the Cuban Missile Crisis, so it was pretty much the first of it’s kind.

      Seems to me like Dr. Strangelove is a black comedy, not a parody.

    • qevlarr
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      Fail-Safe is amazing though. And I actually prefer that it’s a computer glitch, that no individual causes everything to go bad, because the problem is the system

    • Captain Aggravated
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      728 days ago

      Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb is a parody of a book by Peter George called Red Alert.

      The book plays it perfectly straight. They started to adapt the book into a movie, but found they kept having to cut elements out to keep it from being absurd or funny because of the sheer…bullshit that is mutually assured destruction, so they leaned into it and made it a farce. And now just about no one is aware of Red Alert.

  • snooggums
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    6129 days ago

    The best parodies are humorous takes that treat the source material with repect.

    Shaun of the Dead

    Galaxy Quest

    Army of Darkness (person out of time becomes a leader against evil)

    • Ech
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      2829 days ago

      Army of Darkness (person out of time becomes a leader against evil)

      So an isekai

    • @MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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      4629 days ago

      Galaxy Quest belongs at the top of any such list. It’s widely considered to be one of the best Star Trek movies.

    • Captain Aggravated
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      328 days ago

      I guess Army of Darkness is an indirect parody of A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court?

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          128 days ago

          I mean I’m trying to wrap my head around what work it would be a parody of. like, Hot Shots! is primarily a parody of Top Gun with some scenes parodying other films.

          Evil Dead 1 was a horror film. It’s not a parody, or a comedy, it’s a horror film. Evil Dead 2…defies definition. It’s as much a remake as it is a sequel, it’s still a horror movie though it leans more on comedy. Army of Darkness, better known by its actual title “The Studio Wouldn’t Let Us Call It Evil Dead 3” is a horror themed action comedy. It’s not really making fun of an existing work the way Hot Shots! or Airplane! does.

          • snooggums
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            He is an overpowered white guy in a new land like John Carter adventure type stories. He is a chosen one the prophecy foretold! Person out of time who brings knowledge from the future to win war against evil. The deadite army is a comedic take on the stop motion armies of the dead from B movies. He even fights his evil twin!

            It is a parody of a genre, not a single movie or series.

            • Captain Aggravated
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              128 days ago

              I remain unconvinced that Army of Darkness is a parody. A comedy yes, but…Sam Raimi didn’t set out to say anything about the genre, he’ll tell you he just wanted to entertain his audience. A fun setting to throw your protagonist into to see what breaks isn’t necessarily a parody.

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                k

                I’m not trying to convince you, just explaining why I see it as a parody.

  • Count Regal Inkwell
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    As an animation nerd I gotta mention Shrek. As a parody of “Disney princess movies” it killed the entire genre dead.

    The only time Disney tried to play the tropes somewhat straight again was the Princess and the Frog, and THAT was a major flop (though racism probably also played a part in that).

    Since then Disney only made remakes or titles like Frozen that spend 70% of their runtime mugging at themselves and poking fun at their own tropes (… While still circling back to them anyway and failing to make any point or commentary)

    On a less “this made a major cultural impact” note and more of a “this personally completely altered my entire sense of humour and replaced the original in my heart” – SnapCube’s Realtime Fandub Games Sonic Adventure 2

    Oh oh ohohoh! Just remembered JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure. Very much a manga that was poking fun at contemporaries like Fist of the North Star… And while it didn’t outlive or outdo them per se, it definitely gained a life of its own, continuing to this day and actually being quite influential in its own right.

    • @46_and_2@lemmy.world
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      The only time Disney tried to play the tropes somewhat straight again was the Princess and the Frog, and THAT was a major flop (though racism probably also played a part in that).

      Probably, I watched because of my kid recently, and it striked me as one of the better Disney movies. In fact, it’s a pretty awesome one compared to recent bigger hits like Frozen and etc.

      • Count Regal Inkwell
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        's a good movie. Predictable as those disney princess musicals tend to be–

        – But still. It’s pretty. It’s entertaining. And the music sequences are awesome.

    • @BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee
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      princess and the frog had no chance, disney wanted it to fail so they had an excuse to never go back to 2d animation again

      • Count Regal Inkwell
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        That part I didn’t know but it doesn’t surprise me either.

        Still, “Disney wanted to kill off their traditional animation department” might explain why every movie since has been CGI/Live Action. – It does NOT explain why every movie since has been so metalinguistic and self-satirising. THAT can be laid at Dreamworks’ feet entirely, with the influence of Shrek et. al. on the cultural zeitgeist.

  • @Batadon@lemm.ee
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    Not really a parody but “happy but beats 2 and 4 are swapped.”

    The truth is this: oof!

  • edric
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    r/TheDonald. If I remember right, it started as a meme sub before he actually ran, then it was overtaken by actual supporters.

    • @BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee
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      or r/TheDarnold

      when sam darnold starting tearing up the league with the vikings it seemed that sub was right all along

      of course this is the vikings we’re talking about so obviously it came crashing down

    • I Cast Fist
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      Merchandising! Merchandising! Spaceballs the t-shirt! Spaceballs the lunchbox! Spaceballs the FLAMETHROWER!!! The kids love this one.

  • @tetris11@lemmy.ml
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    I think a lot of Whitest Kid’s U Know stuff genuinely transcends the topics its mocking by how good it is.

    For example: WKUK - Kennedy Assasination

    That song at 3:41 swims into my head from time to time, when I’m feeling stressed or overworked or uncertain about the future:

    Somewhere out in space there is a place,
    Where I can do what I want to,
    And all at my own pace.

    Somewhere out of time I hope I’ll find,
    A place where I can just unwind,
    And work on my own mind.

    Oh send me a signal, oh give me a prayer,
    I just need to know that there’s some spot out there,
    Where I could be me and you could be you…

    Just a pure sentiment longing for free time, personal agency, co-existence, brotherhood, and harmony – which I think are topics everyone can click with.

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    Amish paradise. I find the song better than the original(s)

  • Bezier
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    I have not seen the original, but Airplane! for sure.

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      There’s a great video on YouTube where some of the relevant scenes from the original, Zero Hour, are played alongside their equivalents in Airplane!. Some of it is basically word for word the same. Will try and find it and add as an edit…

      Turns out there are lots of such videos! Not sure if this is the one I saw or not, but it’s very similar, if not, https://youtu.be/8-v2BHNBVCs?si=MHJB3Q59c79KVMdP

  • madjo
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    6229 days ago

    Weird Al’s White And Nerdy, so much better than Ridin Dirty.

  • Björn Tantau
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    For my wife Spaceballs is the original and Star Wars is the spoof.

    But more seriously, too many people didn’t register that Scream was a parody. That way it managed to surpass older slashers.

    • @Kng@feddit.rocks
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      329 days ago

      Can confirm scream was one of the first horror movies I watched and I just figured the rest were like that.

    • methodicalaspect
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      1829 days ago

      I saw Spaceballs before I saw Star Wars. I cannot take any Star Wars movie seriously now.

      • @Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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        Imagine that.
        A movie set in the future with advanced space craft yet has guys dueling with pink glowsticks.
        I didn’t need Spaceballs to come to that conclusion when I was about 9.

    • Rhynoplaz
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      I wouldn’t call Scream a parody. Scary Movie was the parody. Scream was just self aware that it was a scary movie in a universe where scary movies exist.

      • @Crewman@sopuli.xyz
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        I watched the original Scream years after seeing Scary Movie, and realized Scary Movie is just Scream on cocaine. A lot of the jokes are the same or just slightly different.

        What’s the line between being self aware and a parody?

    • oni ᓚᘏᗢ
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      My gf used to believe that Scary Movie was the original. She didn’t had idea that there was an actual movie called Scream.