Its a space of 1meter×1meterx1meter, basically a cubic meter where the matter replicator works on. (So, no replicating cars, since its too big)

How do you min-max this?

  • baltakatei
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    It only takes one person to make 1 cubic meter of black hole to destroy the biosphere by ripping Earth into an acretion disc.

    • @Zink@programming.dev
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      I like the concept of destroying the biosphere by shredding the entire fucking planet, lol.

      Using a calculator I referenced further down in the thread, a back hole with a 0.5m radius so that the event horizon would fit within the cubic meter would have a mass of over 56 earths. We’d be proper fucked!

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          Ah, i thought it was a hole in space or something like that, so the absence of anything, and even space was something, but not matter specifically.

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            It is worthwhile to note that the above is highly reductive. A “black hole” is the sort of “hole” in spacetime you’re thinking of. It is caused, however, by gravitational dilation of spacetime by an incredibly high energy density. If you stuff enough matter and energy into a tiny enough space, the gravitational force will be strong enough that no other force in the universe can keep it from getting closer, and closer. Even the forces which keep neutrons and protons from combining with each other will be surmounted, as the energy density increases asymptotically toward infinity. This tiny point of effectively infinite density is the black hole’s “singularity”. Surrounding this singularity is a region where anything (matter, light, space itself) that gets within that range cannot escape. This is because objects have escape velocities based on their masses. If you’re going fast enough, you’ll fly away from the earth never to return. If you’re not going that fast, eventually you’ll fall back down. The further you are from the earth, the easier it is to escape it. The “black” part of the black hole, called the “event horizon”, is the distance from the singularity at which the black hole’s escape velocity is equal to the speed of light, meaning that, closer than that, nothing can escape it. Hence why it’s “black”, because no light is escaping from it. Technically, a black hole is not perfectly black due to hawking radiation, and a black hole with a 0.5 meter schwarzchild radius would probably be small enough to visibly glow (just a bit). (probably not, see below)

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              According to a random black hole calculator I found, a black hole with a 0.5m radius would be over 56 earth masses and the temperature would only be 0.000364 K. So, still orders of magnitude less than the cosmic microwave background.

              I know smaller black holes evaporate faster, but even that little thing (according to the calculator) would have a lifetime of a gargantuan multiple of the age of the universe. Like roughly a number followed by 45 zeros, times the age of the universe.

              The calculator: https://www.vttoth.com/CMS/physics-notes/311-hawking-radiation-calculator

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                Thank you! I didn’t feel like checking with the difference in masses, and based my assumption on Stephen Hawking’s statement that an earth-mass black hole (with an event horizon the size of a pea) would glow from Into The Universe: The Story of Everything. It seems he exaggerated, assuming this calculator is accurate and my understanding of its values is fair. Such an exaggeration is disappointing, if not entirely surprising.

      • @WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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        121 days ago

        A cubic meter of the core of a neutron star would still count as matter. While it probably wouldn’t literally destroy the Earth, I wouldn’t want to be on the same…continent…when that thing went off.

    • So you would have to replicate a percent of the mass of the sun. Seems feasible. The electricity bill would be nuts, but the world is ending anyway.

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    A few people could easily coordinate to have one person ceeate food, another clothing and essentials, and another could create charged batteries or other energy producing objects. Hell, with a little planning you wouldn’t even need to coordinate really.

    At that point the world is basically post scarcity and anyone can do anything, kinda like star trek.

    Assuming no limitations on what it can make we will also be at the stage of mutually assured destruction since everyone can make a mini nuke each day they don’t need something else. This will either discourage violence or wipe out large areas of the planet depending on how fast the technology is distributed, as everyone getting it overnightbwill absolutely lead to a lot of damage in areas where conflict is happening. Not to mention oppressive governments trying to control the populations replicators.

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    Get together with your neighbor, replicate the parts of each other’s replicator. Repeat this daily for a bit. Exponential growth. Give it a month or so, then just go ham and make everything you want, maybe after renting a warehouse to keep them all in.

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      I feel the upper limit of this is probably depends on how many simultaneously unrelated things you can put on the print bed at once. Like, can I have it print me a pair of shoes, 6 sandwiches, an SD card and a bag of cat kibble all at once? Or is it going to make 6 SD kibble card sandwiches on shoe-bread? 1m³ will hold my entire groceries list for the week, but if I have to print each item individually I’ll starve.

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        Well… 1m^3 of rice, then the next day 1m^3 of beans, then the next day 1m^3 of potatoes, etc. - you might not like what you’re eating for the first few days, but I think you could pretty quickly accumulate enough ingredients in massive quantities to make some pretty nice meals, even if that limitation does exist.

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          Or get together with a few neighbors, each person makes one of the basic necessities on the first day, you all split it evenly, and now you can make decent-well balanced food from day 1.

          Now make enough food to give you time for a project. A complete car engine can fit within 1 m3. So can 4 wheels. Power is going to be a problem, but you could probably make 20 solar panels at once. Now your power problems are solved. And if you have solar power, you might as well make some batteries. How much power can 1 m3 of sodium batteries hold? Not enough? Well, then make another.

          So now you have food and power, and you can make a car if you really want. Or you can make an electric scooter in one day. A recumbent electric bike might take 2, and an enclosure for it might take a couple more.

          You’re now 2 weeks in, have a month’s supply of food or more left, all your power needs met, transportation. What’s next? Well, the bad news is your TV will have to be slightly smaller than 60" if you print it from corner to corner in the replicator, but that isn’t a bad size. If multiple things can be printed at once, you can also print a high-end computer and VR kit. If not, this might take a couple days extra. Print a small fridge or two, or, better yet, a stackable fridge freezer set. What, those don’t exist? Make them, or get the designs from someone else. Make a nice stove if you don’t have one. Now your food creation and storage options are completely covered, as well as home entertainment. Might as well make yourself some nice furniture, comfort is key, and don’t forget the bed. Make some nice clothes, too.

          So you’re about a month in and food is running out. So make some more food before you run out. After that, start adding real luxuries. Spices, seasonings, cookware and other home incidentals. At this point, you probably only need to replace consumables. You should have been doing this earlier, but talk to your neighbors and friends. Visit their places, try new foods, get new ideas for how to make your life better, keeping in mind that doesn’t just include stuff.

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      If you can disassemble them, this is probably a good way to eliminate bounds on throughput, but honestly, even a little coordination permits for pretty enormous throughput from the get-go. You’ve got a lot of people out there.

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    I’d probably replicate a 1x1x1m cube of tungsten, then realize I have no way of removing it from the replicator.

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    Tbh, big corporations will buy it off from desperate people for $2000 and use it to print machines that bulk-produce graphene and micro-fusion reactors and finally have the tech to seal off from Earth and leave ruins behind.

    People thought replicators will solve everything but actually big corporations still win, and the economy continues. What’s valuable is the IP or blueprint or knowledge etc. Yes, you can print everything, but do you have a team of engineers who use this replicator to rapidly iterate and develop cutting-edge technologies such as teleporters or warp drives? Too bad you have to pay something for it.

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    Any warzone is about to go absolutely nutty.

  • Owl
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    Buy land on earth.

    As fast as possible.

  • slazer2au
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    722 days ago

    You say it can create an object of a single M3.

    I create a second one by replicating the parts.

    May take a while but when the second one comes online the third one will be even faster.

    • I feel the astounding energy needed to create matter would be the reason for the cooldown, so having more than one would make little difference.

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        My reading of the question implies that the replicator has the cool down. so having a second one will have an independent cool down.

      • @WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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        It can’t be the energy. It has to be a matter rearranger, not something that makes matter from raw energy. Consider a cubic meter of water. It will have a mass of 1000 kg. By E=mc^2, that water has a mass energy of 9e19 Joules. New homes in the US are built with 200 amp panels, delivering power at 120V. The typical new home can draw up to 24,000 Watts from the grid.

        At this max output, it would take a house 120 million years to draw enough electricity to create a cubic meter of water from nothing but pure electrical energy.

        So this thing must actually work as a matter rearranger. You provide it a supply of pure elements and it synthesizes from there. Or, if it’s fancy, it creates elements by rearranging nuclei. But it can’t be something that truly creates matter ex nihilo.

  • @Delphia@lemmy.world
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    You mean after gold and diamonds essentially become worthless? A lot of people would definitely use it for medications.

    • @Noodle07@lemmy.world
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      Me getting a cubic meter of each ADHD drugs see if any works better than mine… Except on sunday, I get my weekly supply of coca cola

  • Can I adjust dimensions? Like, can I replicated a car, but a tiny one that will fit in a 1x1x1m cube?

    If so, I’d replicate 1/8th of the replicator, but double sized. Repeat for all other parts, assemble, and now I have a 2m³ replicator. Repeat until I have one big enough to replicate a house.

    Then, the whole point of the exercise: replicate a house-sized Funyun.