Edit: What do you judge them for?
MAGA shit, thin blue line, black US flag, etc…
In case a civil war actually happens, it’s good to know the enemy.
All of that plus any “Punisher” logo on clothing or vehicles.
dont forget thier lifted giant trucks, that are 1-3feet off the ground. we get it you bought a giant truck to look “masculine” and your wife is a soccer mom and a karen.
Especially that punisher skull motif with the Trump hair. That takes the cringe to a new level.
I thought you were making this up, but no, we’re really exploring new frontiers of cringe
It’s also a fundamental misunderstanding of the character. It’s like all they know about him is the name and the logo.
right winger love to co-opt signs and things of other cultures, concepts and PERVERT into as a right wing identity.
I had to do a search. I’m sorry I did.
So far, I’ve only seen one of those. They’re so stupid looking that if it had been by itself, I wouldn’t have been able to tell if it was meant as a joke. They also had one of those “thin blue line” American flag stickers, though, so that cleared it right up.
The punisher would shoot them for that and not look back
I’m about to get a LGBT punisher logo for my car. 🤣
a rainbow one/
That fits with his ideologies far better than the thin blue line skull nonsense.
100%. I’ve recently added the “Grunt Style” tshirts to my red flag catalog.
What’s wrong with a black US flag? It’s a discrete way to display the flag no?
I’m Canadian, they use a black flag up here too. I don’t know or care about proper flag usage, I just know if I see a black Canadian flag on someone’s car or clothing that they:
- hate the left
- own a gun
- want “freedom”
- don’t care about the environment
- possibly racist?
It’s not really a us flag once you change it.
It supposedly means that “no quarter will be given”.
Well, shit. Didn’t know that thanks
Because I’m surely not the only one going ‘why would I want change, I paid with plastic’: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_quarter
That’s also what US Nazis say.
Indeed.
Start asking for bills then. No point in asking for dimes or nickels.
It’s against flag code and is considered not a proper flag.
At this point in my life I couldn’t care less about the flag code. I just like to be discrete. But as people have pointed out, there are meanings that people are already using it for of which I fundamentally disagree with so….
Good thing I never got around to it
Seems like a dogwhistle confederate flag to me.
I mean, if it’s on clothing, it’s not a flag, it’s a flag image. Ergo, the flag code doesn’t really give a fuck.
Ugh. I hate it when people downvote others for asking legitimate questions. I didn’t know it had a special meaning either, so thanks for taking one for the team. 🤷♂️
Add “Gulf of America” shirts to the list
MAGA hats, swastika tattoos
Police uniform.
For me, it’s a “thin blue line” sticker. I immediately think the person is racist.
i seen so many of them on suvs in a blue area, even on the uniforms of tradespeople who does maitenance for grocery stories, dont want to see it , we already know/.
On two occasions I made a louder-than-necessary comment to my kids to stay away from those people (MAGA hats too) while they were within earshot and then listed reasons why. Got some dirty looks, but no one ever approached me. Because they’re a bunch of feckless cowards.
Same if they wear a MAGA hat, have a MAGA bumper sticker, or fly a Trump flag.
Or a Punisher sticker.
I see that sticker and I think is this an actual human capable of empathy?
What, just because they’re making it clear it’s not “protect & serve”, but instead “us vs. them”?
It’s The Coward’s Swastika ". Pretty much anyone who flies it is racist and a bootlicker. They’re just afraid to fly the Nazi or Confederate flag…
I can let that one slide if it’s on their car. They could be just trying to get out of tickets.
Cybertruck drivers.
ETA: Regular Tesla drivers I give the benefit of the doubt to, because they might have bought their car before they realized Musk is a Nazi dickhead man-child. But cybertruck drivers basically knew and didn’t care (or still fanboi’d over him).
ive seen many teslar drivers bought thier regular tesla cars/suvs after musk went full nazi, like 1-2 years after he bought xitter. they know better, but they are very super-ignorant demographic, apparently alot of them in my area when i look into whos drivers, its asians, im asian.(its like a hybrid of ignorant but still aware of the news of the current events and still purchasing said item/services because it previously had brand recognition thats all they cared about, at the same time low info on the politicla spectrum)
I saw a cybertruck the other day with a “Bought it before we knew Elon was crazy” bumper sticker on it. I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt, since I myself was pro-Elon once upon a time, but c’mon. I know not everyone stays plugged into the news cycle, but you didn’t know until after you bought the cybertruck?
wait, but the cybertruck was way after he went full nazi.
A certain little moustache was generally popular and harmless before Hitler came along, but after the war it forever became the Hitler moustache and shaving one’s face in that style nowadays invites the comparison whether or not one means it that way.
I think it was actually fairly common after WWI, since it’s about the only facial hair you can really have with a gas mask.
Because if the way I shave, I’m concerned that I’ll have a heart attack just before I finish and I’ll be buried looking like Hitler.
I had a similar thought years ago, so if anything happens, I’ll end up with a reverse Hitler.
TIL Trumps father wore a Hitler mustache until 1950.
After World War II, toothbrush variants were worn by a small number of notable individuals, e.g. American real-estate developer Fred Trump (who wore a split variant), and former president of Zimbabwe Robert Mugabe (covering only the philtrum).
Trump wore a toothbrush mustache from c. 1935 to 1950, about when it fell out if fashion due yo associations with Adolf Hitler
Like the fylefot and any number of runes.
In the UK you can see what year most cars were bought based on the license plate. I absolutely give Tesla owners the benefit of the doubt if it was bought before this year - although Musk showed something of his true personality in 2018.
But the other day I saw a dude driving a Tesla Y with a '25 plate and I absolutely judged him for buying a car fronted by an actual nazi.
He showed his personality when he accused a rescue worker of being a pedophile while trying to rescue children trapped in a cave.
They told Musk to fuck off when he was insisting that his “submarine” can save the day.
All the money in the world and no brains.
and the hyperloop scam was even more unforgivable, basically robbed california of a high speed rail system, which was blocked by trumps 1st term elain chao. and now its just a half-assed attempt with no progression.
Yup, that’s exactly what I was thinking of from 2018.
Musk: “I’ll build a submarine to save them, then everyone will love me even more!”
Cave Rescue Expert: “That’s not an especially practical solution given the situational needs of this resuce operation.”
Musk: “… er… well… pedo!”
Anyone who pays the ridiculous up charge so they can provide free advertising for any big brand. If you paid $50 bucks for a regular ass shirt with nothing but a Nike logo on it then you’re a fucking rube.
MAGA gear. A Tesla, esp a Cyberdump. A Calvin Pissing sticker. A Jesus shirt; crosses display faith but a shirt or hat says “this is my whole entire identity”. Any Suburban, F150, Super Duty, or similarly oversized American SUV or pickup. I know you never haul anything and your groceries are all in the cab.
Woah now, Calvin can piss on anything… Surely there is room for comedy there.
The cartoonist never agreed to mechanizing so at best it’s still stealing from the family of a beloved icon.
He’s still alive, technically it would be stealing from him
If you have a religion, shouldn’t it be your entire identity?
…no? Why would it be?
Ephesians 2:8-10
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
1 Peter 2:9-10
But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
I don’t see anything in there saying, “so make worshiping me your entire identity and think of nothing else you brainless slave”
Real interesting what religous nutjobs read in to things…
Ephesians 2:8-10
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
1 Peter 2:9-10
But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
I think you need to read some new material that isn’t super rapey.
🤨
You are arguing that everyone who has a particular religion should be identical to each other?
Please elaborate. This is fascinating.
I mean, I can only assume that what they are referring to is Bhagavad Gita 9:27:
Whatever you do, whatever you eat, whatever you offer in sacrifice, whatever you give, whatever austerity you practice, O Arjuna, do it as an offering to Me [Lord Krishna].
How to recognize a true believer, from Matthew 7:16-20:
16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
One of those big trucks but they are immaculate, clean, scuff free. So not used for they are meant for: working.
Now they are just taking up space and being dangerous to the public just to try and help prop up someone’s ego.
Yeah I see them parked at my office and always think - someone drove that enormous truck here, then went up the elevator to their office job. What the fuck?
I apologize for the misandry but also we have a saying down here - the bigger the truck, the smaller the cock. If you don’t need a work truck for your work, you ought not get a work truck, it’s stupid expensive and gas guzzling. I judge you.
I call those brodozers, and I hate those drivers. I’ve damned near gotten hit by them so many times cuz they can’t see shit over their hood
I love that my dinky hatchback has more get up and go then they do, they get so fucking offended when you zoom off from a light next to them.
“Parking lot princesses”
Had a lot of those come through when I worked at Lowe’s. Many were indeed working trucks, but they were towing monster loads, not throwing shit in the back.
Do you judge people driving clean, scuff free vans as well or only truck drivers?
I use my truck for work but other than having a roof rack you probably wouldn’t be able to tell it’s a work truck from the outside. When it gets dirty, I wash it, and when it gets dents or scratches I fix them. I don’t want it to look like a beater.
A 4x4 truck with its big wheels and high ground clearance are features that allow the truck to move off-road. These features have the unfortunate side effect of making them dangerous to other road users, and very uneconomical / environmentally unfriendly. They also take up a lot of space.
Work vans and most cars are capable of driving on a building site or track.
Hood height, engine size, and the physical exterior dimensions of many vans are similar to those of pickup trucks. When used for work, it often just comes down to personal preference. One key difference is towing capacity - most vans are limited to around 750 kg, whereas trucks typically offer much more. Mine can tow up to 3000 kg.
Edit: Also, rear visibility in a van is much worse due to the enclosed cargo area. With a truck, you pretty much have 360-degree visibility.
most vans are limited to around 750 kg, whereas trucks typically offer much more. Mine can tow up to 3000 kg.
Yeah that’s bullshit. Vans that can do the max of 3500kg are common as fuck. You probably looked at the wrong spec. 750kg is the max for a trailer without brakes, regardless of type of car. There are usually two numbers on the spec sheet, one for max towing weight for unbraked trailers and one for braked trailers.
True, my bad. Many of the most commonly used vans here can tow 2500kg as long as the trailer has brakes. Anything more than that is rare though. Even many of the other mid-size pickups can’t tow 3000kg.
It may depend on local laws. Here the total weight of the combination (car + trailer) with a B+E driving license is 7000Kg, and 3500Kg for a car. That means you can have a van with 3500Kg capacity plus a 3500Kg trailer. So naturally there are vans that are built to match the max spec.
Here’s a great video by Fort Nine that explains how and why the shape and size of these trucks are a threat to everyone outside the vehicle.
This applies to vans just as well though. This Ford Transit is little over a meter longer than a Toyota Hilux so these pictures are roughly to scale.
But the front/hood is much shorter in length. Also, people driving that type of van are much more likely to be doing so in a professional capacity and are significantly less likely to be asshole drivers fucking around with their phone while driving. People are bad drivers at baseline quite frequently, but if someone is on the job in a van used for commercial purposes, they’re more likely to at least be paying attention and not speeding everywhere.
Edit: I marked up your image to illustrate the point made much more eloquently in the video. Because of the length of the hood, the truck has a much longer distance of road obstructed from view in front of it, and this is with a standard truck that doesn’t have one of the very popular lift kits (and assuming that the driver is relatively tall.)
If there’s a 70 cm tall child standing in front of the vehicle, then in either case the child either would or wouldn’t be visible - there’s effectively no difference. It doesn’t really matter whether you can see 2 or 3 meters more of the road surface from one vehicle or the other. In both cases, the hood height is the same, and that’s what determines the safety in the event of a pedestrian collision.
Also, with a van, the rear visibility is greatly reduced compared to a pickup. You could say that can be compensated for with cameras - but that same argument applies to the front visibility as well.
Let’s also keep in mind where this discussion started from: a commenter was taking issue with clean, scuff-free pickups as if a work truck couldn’t look like that.
Ford makes (or at least made) and E-350 van. It can tow anything your truck can. And seat 11 people. And keep your equipment secured and safe from the elements. And it has a backup camera.
What’s your point? That thing is bigger than my pickup.
The point is that both of your points are factually incorrect.
Which points exactly?
Yeah Sorry, I should have said I’m not American. I’m Dutch. I’ve been to the USA and these things “fit” better in a car-centric society. At least there is room.
But even there I still question it’s usefulness, you cannot see right in front of you. You’d miss wheelchairs, children, etc. And van’s can usually carry more the the flatbed of a truck.
I’m not American either - I’m from Finland. I’ve been to the Netherlands, and I can’t quite imagine owning a truck there either.
However, your criticism was about clean, scuff-free trucks broadly. If you had said that you judge people for owning a truck when they have no practical need for one, I wouldn’t have any issue with that. But that’s not what you said.
I don’t own one of those gigantic American trucks, but a mid-size one - think Toyota Hilux, Ford Ranger, Mitsubishi L200, Nissan Navara, or Isuzu D-Max. The external dimensions and hood height on those are comparable to similarly sized work vans. So when someone needs a vehicle capable of hauling cargo, it’s basically a choice between a truck and a van - and there’s not much difference between the two in terms of pedestrian safety.
I’d even argue a truck might be safer, because you generally have better all-around visibility. Vans tend to have very limited rear visibility due to the enclosed cargo area. You could argue that a van is more convenient for hauling certain types of cargo, but that’s a separate discussion about practicality - not safety.
Well I agree. My first reaction was a bit tongue-in-cheek. On purpose to conjure a very specific image; A person owning a huge monster truck without the intention of using it for it’s intended purpose but for propping up one’s ego.
A Toyoto Hilux is not something I would consider. More along the lines of: https://www.hotcars.com/the-sickest-lifted-trucks-weve-seen-in-2020/
Or these:
p.s. Vans have camera’s these days, allowing you to even see the ground underneath your fender. So even better then you could ever get with just your mirror’s.
We have a few of those here in the Netherlands and it’s so ridiculous it’s almost sad. These big American trucks really aren’t fit for Dutch roads. They’re too large for the roads, they don’t fit in any parking lot, and they look ridiculous next to any normal car. I could sort of understand that a farmer would have them, but even then it can’t be that useful because it must be a hassle any time the truck needs to pass through a city or village.
Yeah I should have said: I’m from the Netherlands as well. And my gripes are only valid here I think. The roads here are NOT made for these monster sized units. Parking one of them means you are half way parked on the curb, meaning pedestrians and wheel chairs can no longer pass.
I’ve seen cases where these “parked units” block the flow of traffic and even trams!! #useless
City trucks
If someone has a good quality bicycle that they actually use: you got your shit together!
Harley Davidson clothing: they’re very insecure.
Harley Davidson: „Pay tomorrows prices for yesterday’s technology!“
Wanna know the difference between a Harley and a lawn mower?
The lawn mower has a reason to sound like that.
The lawnmower also serves a useful function.
I mean, a motorcycle is transportation. It can transport maybe you and one passenger (and some light cargo, I know), but it’s more practical in a car-centric service economy than walking everywhere. They’re also pretty fuel efficient for being so light, and fairly dangerous if people don’t notice your tiny ass (which is an advantage of all the noise)
I have literally zero negative or positive opinions about Harleys as motorcycles, I don’t own one or know anyone who does, I don’t even have a motorcycle license so feel free to correct me if you have a differing opinion – to me, they just are what some people enjoy. It’s the… quality of the people who tend to enjoy them that gives me the ick. Like a bar that didn’t quite fully kick the Nazis out. I know they aren’t all Nazis, but there are still a disturbing number of Nazis. Or at the very least, American neo-nazis are not frequently depicted riding crotch rockets from overseas.
That’s true, a motorcycle is transportation. And, I suppose if you just go for a ride around the city taking pleasure at annoying people with the sound of your loud pipes, it serves a “useful” function for you, in that it brings you pleasure.
I have literally zero negative or positive opinions about Harleys as motorcycles, I don’t own one or know anyone who does, I don’t even have a motorcycle license so feel free to correct me if you have a differing opinion
Ok, well that’s where I differ. Harleys are terrible motorcycles. They use engine technology from the 1960s while bikes from every other manufacturer use tech that’s decades more advanced. The power to weight ratios of their bikes are absolutely terrible, and not just because they’re cruisers, every other cruiser out there has a better power to weight ratio. Then, even worse is the price. The performance you get per dollar from a Harley is just awful.
With Harley you’re paying for the brand name. You get a bike that in every measurable way is worse than a bike by virtually any other manufacturer, but because Harley has done such a good job of establishing a certain image, people will overpay for an underperforming bike as long as it has that brand name attached, and as long as it has the Harley sound and feel. (And that “sound and feel” is basically an engine that is going to shake the fillings out of your teeth because it’s using ancient technology that every other manufacturer has ditched.)
The Nazi-adjacency is part of the mystique. They’re the “outlaw motorcycle gang” brand, and a lot of the outlaw motorcycle gangs are not just violent, they’re also racist, sexist, homophobic, and so-on. It’s really the brand for dentists and lawyers who have boring office jobs but want to spend money to feel like they’re badasses. They’re not going to commit heinous crimes, but they can dress up like the people who do, and feel a bit of a thrill that maybe the people that see them on their bikes are going to be a bit afraid.
I’ve heard part of the reason some people choose a Harley is because the sound makes them more noticeable in traffic, as a safety thing.
The merch is fucking stupid, but at least the noise does have a safety benefit, plenty of motorcycle riders get killed because other drivers didn’t notice them – good luck not noticing a Harley in close proximity.
Want to look like a bad-ass tough guy [please don’t look into this], without having to actually do anything other than buy merch and possibly buy an overpriced motorcycle? Just buy Harley Davison gear, and we promise people won’t actually be laughing at you.
Pretty much ‘anything’ clothing. I guess if it’s a clothing brand of good quality and there is no choice except to wear it with the logo they stick on it might be an exception, but anything outside of that is basically paying to belong to some club with basically no membership requirements except spending money.
Really good quality clothing doesn’t have prominent logos.
I would go so far as to say anything Harley Davidson related, even their motorcycles. They are over priced and under performing compared to literally every thing else.
Yeah, I was on the fence about that. If someone has just a motorcycle and none of the gear, I might give them a pass, based on which motorcycle and how they have it set up.
Someone normal looking wearing clothing that references a nerdy hobby/interest: this person is self-confident enough to not be afraid to admit to having a nerdy side.
If someone seems extremely socially awkward and is wearing that kind of clothing it’s different. But if it’s someone who looks like a soccer mom but she’s wearing a Critical Role tee shirt, she’s cool. Or if it’s a guy who looks like a construction worker with an Anime character: nice one, dude.
If someone carries a gun and they have a normal low-threat job and live in a normal low-threat suburb: wow, that person lives in a fantasy world, and is just looking for an excuse to hurt someone. What an absolute loser.
If they have a good opinion of me I know they’re a poor judge of character.
If I see a bumper sticker that mentions jesus, I definitely assume that car is driven by the least christ-like person imaginable, and give them space.
Don’t drive near people who are not afraid to die
“Jesus take the wheel”
I’ve read the gospels, and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a driving licence.
Jesus died for their sins though so it’s ok.
Hm. Cop uniforms. I
accurately appraisejudge them to likely be problematic in all kinds of ways that might threaten my safety and certainly that of others
