Apologies for the low resolution. It was a mobile ad and all I could get was a screenshot.
Someone feed that boi
Girl, but okay.
Joke but okay. Also way to assume a person’s identity
She’s modelling for the women’s section of the Prada website, so it’s reasonably safe to assume she is a woman.
Always bad to assume gender of course, but “boi” is also often used by women with a meaning similar to “tom boy”, or “butch”, or just a woman who presents more masculine than average. Anyway, I don’t know who the model is or their preferences, just wanted to clarify the term that was used is used by several genders, most of whom are not men.
And many women find being referred to as boi to be incredibly insulting. Especially if they are more androgynous, and it’s often used as an insult against them.
And when the model is specifically modelling for the women’s section of a store, is is pretty safe to assume gender. It is highly unlikely someone would model for a gender they aren’t.
Me: “How bad could it b-JESUS!”
I legitimately thought this was a joke, at first. Like taking some internet meme I’m unfamiliar with and putting it in an ad for Prada.
The fashion industry is simply saving money on fabrics by using smaller, thinner models that don’t require as much material to clothe.
/s
Right?
TBH that statement rings true. It’s so much easier to make a fit look good if you’re skinny. Also, when you’re doing a photoshoot there’s always the possibility of the model bailing at the last minute. So, to keep the photoshoot going with another model you don’t need to keep multiple sizes just slap that clothing on and use clips to make it fit nice.
Also this is anecdotal, my partner is 5’5 and weighs 90 lbs and it’s so easy for them to make an outfit it’s crazy.
Is that Tim or Eric?
why not? those people exist too. This is skinny-phobic behavior.
Not when you don’t see ads
Looks anorexic to me. Hope they are fine
I looked a lot like that as a teenager while going through some growth spurts. I ate like an elephant (1990s taco tuesdays at Taco Bell we’d each get a 12 pack after school), but I was still 150-160 at 6’3” (60 something kilos and 190something cm).
This person might be a little lighter, but I couldn’t put on muscle to save my life back then. Not till I was in my 20s did I get above 170.
Edit: forgot how to divide by 2.2…
In High School I was a 5’9" burly 165 lbs dude I was doing like 25 pullups on door frames, but after that life kind of went sideways and I lost the weight and strength and I’ve never been back to that weight again.
I did continue to grow to 5’11" tho so thats a consolation prize.
but I was still 150-160 at 6’3” (30something kilos and 190something cm).
150-160 lbs is definitely not “30 something kilos”. It’s more than double that, around 70 kg. Just FYI or for any other weird-unit users out there who aren’t familiar with standard kg. 😅
When I read 190cm and 30kg, I was kinda shocked
That would look like a skeleton, I’m pretty sure. 😅
This isn’t mild.
Interesting haircut (if you can call that a haircut)
Take your judgement back to Facebook
Take your ruthless acceptance of dumb shit back to Tumblr.
So, where does body positivity start and stop? It seems silly to say one extreme is acceptable but the other isn’t.
Now, I worry body positivity, in general, encourages people to ignore the need to make life style changes for their own personal health, but also, maybe, if it’s not my body, it’s none of my fucking business.
if it’s not my body, it’s none of my fucking business.
Please don’t be obtuse. When it gets put into an ad campaign aimed at me and the 99.9% of other people where looking like would be extremely bad for our own personal health, it becomes our business.
Look at it another way, a year ago would you have said to an antivaxxer / antimasker “who am I to judge”? The effects here are much more subtle and take more time, but the same logic applies, and the results of inaction are no less insidious.
So sure, all right, maybe a single person might be all right without a vaccine/without a mask/eating only 30 calories a day, but that is not something that should be encouraged. And the dumbass republicans/marketers who spread this behavior should be called out and shamed.
The ad isn’t aimed at you. It isn’t even aimed at customers. It is aimed upwards.
Is there a human being on the planet earth who can afford a Prada bag and has never heard of that brand? Seriously, 8 billion members of humanity and I will put down money right now that there is literally not a single one who has the money and has never heard of the brand.
The ad exists in the form it exists because someone thought it would impress their manager who in turn was trying to impress their manager and so on. All the way up to some heiress who sits on the board.
Look right now at Walmart or Target’s or Amazons website for clothing. Do you see the models? They look like normal people and they are smiling. Those retailers are trying to get money from you. Because those companies are sane normal businesses that want your cash and nothing more. They impress the higher ups by how much of your cash they can get.
Obesity is also extremely bad for our own personal health so we should stop seeing obese people in ads too right?
How many ads actually have obese people in them? I don’t such any online but I haven’t had stuff like broadcast cable for ages. Is it a thing?
It’s quite common because companies want to market to people by seeming relatable and wouldn’t you know it, for a lot of people being overweight is relatable so you see it a lot more in advertising now.
Yeah I go to target and the mall and etc and see obese (women in particular) being used to advertise.
It’s definitely become a thing within the past decade, especially with products/ads directed more towards women. Remember that obese is not “Jabba the Hutt” levels of fat, and someone who looks like this is far past obese at 5’4" (1.61m) and 200lbs (90kg). Then, you have companies like Dove ( with ads like their “Body Positive Trailer” showing characters that are well past Class III obesity. That’s an extreme example, but it’s become quite common overall to show severely overweight people as “normal”
Companies have realized that people are getting fatter and fatter globally, so like any good capitalists they’re going to take advantage of it. It shouldn’t come as any surprise that Dove is owned by Unilever, who is also the world’s largest producer of ice cream, and suddenly their push for “body positivity” makes a bit more sense.
Now, before people go and attack me, I think that there have been many positive changes in how people are being more realistically portrayed in media and appreciate the push for more realistic body standards. Shaming people for looking “different” is not okay, and that includes being overweight.
However, what’s not okay in my mind is how quickly it’s become “being severely overweight is totally okay if you #slay queen, yaaaas”. I’ve noticed a growing trend of these types of ads, generally portraying black/PoC women (who are already statistically far more likely to become obese) who are hundreds of pounds overweight as doing all kinds of “fitness” and/or “boss babe” kinds of activities, which seems like they are trying to convince the broader audience that it’s totally okay to be 200-300lbs overweight because this obese black girl was shown wearing athletic wear.
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Yes? I don’t know what kind of gotcha you thought you had but it didn’t work out too well.
Took the words right out of my mouth. I will never say a single unkind word to an obese person, I was there too once and know how hard it is, but lets not pretend it’s healthy to be that way either.
I completely agree. I would never be mean to anyone for their size because that’s not kind. I am overweight, I was obese. I’ve been working on listing weight. I’ve been there. I love food. There is this stigma that saying that being fat is bad means you’re attacking someone. It’s simply the truth, we have the data. It’s not healthy. We know this, science knows this.
I’ve encountered lots of people in real life and the Internet who think it’s perfectly acceptable to be obese(health at every size, etc), there’s a whole anti diet campaign and everything. I’m glad you personally don’t feel that way, I agree with you the extremes in either direction are unhealthy. But let’s not pretend like that is some unheard of viewpoint.
Health. Hurts a bit knowing all those teen girls out there feel like shit because of some tiny “imperfection”. Hurts a bit that we don’t tell people whose weight is not what medical science is recommending to adjust it.
I am a fat guy, I am doing well on my diet. My doctor was honest, if I don’t lose the weight she is going to have to start talking about medications.
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You cannot tell me that dude (duddette?) doesn’t have an eating disorder. That looks sickly and horrible.
Meh, I dated a girl thinner than that. People were always making comments like yours, but to her face.
She had one barely functioning kidney. Dumped her because she was foul tempered, but I heard she got a transplant!
But yes, eating disorder is a fair guess for a model like that.
Maybe they do, maybe they don’t. I think it’s a bit distasteful to armchair diagnose someone you don’t know, though
It’s also distasteful to encourage eating disorders to enter the modelling industry by exclusively featuring models that are extremely underweight, but I guess who are we to judge…
But when they’re extremely overweight from their eating disorder, that’s body positivity and needs to be included for those people to not feel excluded?
Why are the only options the extremely underweight or the extremely overweight? What wrong with just using people of average weight? Or even just a healthy weight?
The fashion business seems to thrive on either body positivity or body negativity, but not body neutrality. If you feel neutral.about you body, I guess that doesn’t prompt you to spend a ton of money on products to celebrate or disguise it.
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That’s not skinny, that’s starvation thin. The person in the picture is clearly not eating enough, any suggestion otherwise is just giving power to the notion that it’s healthy to be that underweight.
Not eating enough food is an eating disorder, regardless of the cause of it.
The fact that you choose to take personally what was a comment about a model in an industry that specifically selects for extremely underweight models regardless of how they achieve that weight doesn’t mean that it was an insult directed at you. You are not the subject here. You may have a unique metabolism, but the industry projects an unhealthy and largely unattainable image for the vast majority of people.
We aren’t ridiculing the model, we’re concerned for their health…
We are the society and judging other people’s behaviour is what defines morality. Not speaking up about things that are clearly fucked up as the model industry just shifts the whole moral-scale in their favor.
I am extremely skinny and look unhealthy and kinda similar to the model in that way, even though I eat normally and I think even very healthy. My dad looks like that too. Being 2 meters tall also doesn’t exactly help. Just saying that you shouldn’t judge people so easily and you can hurt someone also pretty easily. Some people just have being fat or skinny in their genes.
Conservation of energy would maybe disagree with that last statement
Being 2m tall they have to eat quite a bit more than average, and it sounds like they’re not.
Yeah, I’m not much shorter and my daily intake is around 3000kcal. I used to be super skinny too, and that didn’t change until I started eating more than what I thought was “normal”
How?
The way I interpret the comment is that they are saying “If you would eat normally, you couldn’t be that thin.”
It’s a reference to the fact that energy cannot be destroyed, only transformed into a different form.
It’s a reference to the fact that energy cannot be destroyed, only transformed into a different form.
“The way I interpret this comment is” if this is all there is to it, then we should all be the same weight all the time, apparently.
It’s amazing what people think they can “interpret” about another whole entire anonymous human being they know literally nothing about, other than “thin.”
These comments are totally proving the OC’s point though.
Which would only make sense if every human body processed every molecule ingested in the exact same way
Not really. Metabolism changes don’t account for that large of a swing in your BMR unless you have a thyroid issue (which is treatable).
I’ve been in the same situation as the dude trying to justify that body type, and he’s just not eating enough to be a healthy weight. You can’t be 6’6" and eat the same amount of food as everyone else. You have to eat quite a bit more.
Except you might not be able to eat that much more if your body tells you you’re full. There are a lot of factors to body weight, with studies suggesting a large genetic factor (40-70%. While theoretically you can (almost) always eat more/less and it’ll affect your weight accordingly, the difficulty of actually doing that will vary heavily by individual.
Thank you. There’s apparently been a fine line between promoting body acceptance and shitting on thin body types. Some people seem to think it’s not even a natural body type at all and anyone who’s thin is just anorexic. It’s like we’ve been completely left out of the equation unless we’re being looked down on. Yeah, I’m right there with you on this.
Absolutely right. I would not judge you if I saw you at the supermarket. But this dude is the face of a fashion and beauty brand. They are pushing this body type (rarely occurs naturally in healthy folks like you) and mostly occurs on people with health problems. In a way they are pushing a non healthy image to many people that are not like you. I would even dare to say you are a very minuscule porcentage of people with this body type that are 100% healthy so this is being pushed to folks that have lovehandles and now they hate themselves.
the important part is the suggestion that you can look like them by buying prada
Yeah, given that people have different body types, making any type the good one or worse, the right one is just wrong, and beauty business plays a big role in the problem.
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I used to look like that from ages 15 to 30. I was eating 6000 calories a day to maintain my weight. I don’t know about that dude (dude is gender neutral), but it is possible they are struggling to not lose weight. Unlikely, but possible.
You’re either lying on the Internet (impossible!) or you had some serious disease that you failed to mention in your comment. Mitchell Hooper, weighing around 140 kg, was eating around 5500 kcal when he won worlds strongest man.
No illness. Just unlucky. Why would use use a world class body builder, literally the most exceptional human to ever exist as your point of comparison? That’s like saying anyone could play Conan the Barbarian if they just toned up a little.
No, you’re missing the point. Point is that even 500kcal less than your claimed daily intake will put into a 100++kg body weight, even if you’re an elite athlete.
Unless you eat like Askeladden, there is absolutely zero chance you were eating anywhere close to 6000kcal a day if you didn’t have medical condition that tampered with your intake.
Don’t spread misinformation, especially about a topic that is already so heavily mired with it.
Except I was and I did. It’s not misinformation. It’s experience. But thanks for trying to invalidate 15 years of my life with zero information other than a basic understanding of calories and not figuring in any other metabolic factors.
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Except I did. If I got behind I would lose pounds.
Seriously. No one’s eating 6,000 calories a stay and looking like the dude in the post.
My brothers were swimmers and skinny and small (and really fast, won national titles) and that combination of young, male, and active does create a black hole of metabolism. I also had a friend who was 6’6" and 140lb but healthy too, poet not athlete. He ate, it’s just hard to eat enough to fund that much height.
The model though, that’s an aesthetic choice not an aspirational body type. Androgynous and otherworldly is what I think they are going for. It’s not mainstream attractive, certainly.
Someone who eats 6000 calories a day cannot look like this. It is not scientifically possible. That energy has to go somewhere and unless you’re sprinting continuously for hours on end it’s just not happening.
Yet I did. 135 pounds and 6’2” for 15 years. You are assuming that everyone absorbs nutrition equally or that people burn at the same rate. I was a human space heater and, because my blood pressure was too low to get a driver’s license, I was walking up to 7 miles a day. But that exercise probably didn’t make a dent in anything.
I’m not here to say what your experiences are. I just have some numbers. The total daily energy expenditure of the average male of that weight and height aged 18-30 who does intense exercise daily is around 3300 calories a day and this is on the high range which means if one were to consume 6000 calories a day and use 3300, they would still have 2700 calories still in their body. A pound of fat is about 3500 calories therefore at that rate you would gain approximately 23 pounds a month. I’m not arguing. Just saying the numbers don’t add up.
“average” is doing a lot of lifting there. And, again you are assuming normal absorption of calories. The numbers don’t add up because you aren’t considering all the variables. What’s the calorie need differential between an ectomorph and an endomorph? What role does hormone and thyroid play?
Yes, you are arguing. You might be using math but you are saying I wasn’t me.
What’s the calorie need differential between an ectomorph and an endomorph?
None. Somatotypes are a pseudoscience and have been completely debunked.
What role does hormone and thyroid play?
The difference between the “fastest” and “slowest” metabolism in healthy people of the same weight is at most 300kcal per day, which is significant, but couldn’t account for a missing ~3k surplus per day
There are however several conditions which cause the body to simply not to process food (malabsorption is the term to look up), which is what must have been happening to you.
It’s very common for people to misestimate their calories by massive amounts, which is why people are expressing doubts, but what you’re describing is a real thing that happens
The variables don’t matter because even if they were included, they wouldn’t make up for the lost calories. Oh well. It’s not important.
Saying variables don’t matter is cheating at math and taking a very simplified view of metabolism of food intake. It was very important to me when I was counting every calorie and tried to lose any weight because 5 lb could send me to the hospital.
I’m not sure what they’re going for here but about 100 years of marketing data has proven that clothing sells better on tall skinny pretty people.
I’m tall and skinny. Unfortunately it doesn’t translate to picking up girls well
No, that’s not the marketing message you should get from this. 100 years of marketing data shows that making people feel bad about themselves in any way they can (styles change for that), makes people want to buy clothing that “the in people” are wearing.
Well…
This… person is skinny for sure.
She’s… anorexic… at best…
It’s a girl? It’s looks more like a femboy to me.
That isn’t an accident. Female models for high end fashion have body types that resemble 18 year old males.
