Our shit setup at work, where I am now using two browsers and two email programs because our Jira and Confluence can’t be arsed to decently support web standards/Firefox and because Outlook is shit but Exchange has stuff I need Outlook for.
Today was the first time, after yet again something not working - issues on confluence and Jira ticket can’t be closed, endless load on Firefox - where I genuinely felt relieved that a very different website for file transfer simply worked. I could open it, click download, and download the file.
It’s absurd that I feel this way.
Atlassian is shit for forcing us into the expensive cloud for a shit product. Our Jira and Confluence have plugins, and we pay admin company to integrate more customizations, and it just makes everything worse. The “changes only happen at night” I read from Atlassian is pointless because without notice or announcement stuff breaks anyway, and I have no idea who makes changes and when and what, because nothing is being communicated. Today was the third time we weren’t able to add work time to tickets. Let’s see when the next time will be.
It’s a constant annoyance and stumbling over shit tools.
I have various CSS hacks in place to make Jira and Confluence more usable, but it’s still shit. And man their HTML DOM is absolutely horrendous with only generated classes. Most of my CSS hacks use test ID attributes.
Shit Atlassian, shit Jira and Confluence, shit customizations. Annoying Outlook and Exchange.
Man this became a long text and rant lol
Unfortunately, they’re not useless but apparently necessary. I don’t see us ever moving away from them.
Jira breaking is a feature. Free time to do nothing
I cannot count the number of times I was able to fire off an email with a status update to the PM “JIRA is down, again, I completed XYZ, update your gantt charts, my part is done.” I know that they paid a whole team of folks to craft the interrelations of those tasks for a system that hardly ever worked.
Atlassian is shit for forcing us into the expensive cloud for a shit product.
I feel your pain. Or rather, I felt it once and am now freed!
We were big into Atalassian when they announced they were going cloud only. We had on-prem versions of Jira, Confluence and Bitbucket
We pretty quickly said “Fuck that”, mostly because we have an on-prem policy for IP protection.
I was pretty happy to spend some time searching for replacements, mostly because it was my job to apply upgrades to these steaming, tottering piles of badly written java horseshit. They looked pretty, but the upgrade process was convoluted and quite often failed terminally. I still think that the difficulty of upgrading the hosted versions was a driver towards cloud only, mostly because it exposed how shite the things were and how many complaints they must have got for offering an on-prem product that was so hard to maintain, despite looking pretty.
I take some pleasure that the Atlassian share price is now half what it was before they did this.
(If anyone was interested; Confluence and Jira were replaced by Youtrack. Bitbucket by Teamcity. Both by Jetbrains, both much easier to upgrade (Teamcity is web-based one-click), and our licencing costs are about half what we paid to Atlassian)
Our biggest dependency is on the jira extension for adding work time and doing monthly and yearly worker Abrechnung.
I believe the hope was to be a reasonable migration to cloud, but if course man’s issues and a lot of effort. Now we’re in the cloud with that.
We wouldn’t only need a ticketing replacement. But time, invoice, and lawful worker pay docs.
Full price EA games with F2P-style microtransactions and ads
And this isn’t useless, but I can’t believe that to rent Photoshop for $20/mo, your creative projects are not your IP…
to rent Photoshop for $20/mo, your creative projects are not your IP
How is that even legal?
I don’t think that’s true.
They changed their TOS to give them a right to everything you make. https://9to5mac.com/2024/06/06/change-to-adobe-terms-amp-conditions/
Sorry but the same article links to an update that backtracks.
There’s just no way this would ever pass without them losing all their business customers, any legality of such disclaimer aside.I stand corrected. Still though, it shows that they at least wanted to have this happen, which breaks my trust in them.
They probably wanted to sell it as AI training data.
Yes, that’s kind of the point. They wanted to steal every artist that uses their software’s work, and then use it (or sell it) to train AI to put those artists out of work.
It feels like the epitome of “short term profits at the cost of long term gain”. No one’s going to be using your software if you put them out of work. But I guess when you’re a monopoly the only direction to go is down.
Microsoft Sharepoint has a Wiki. The Wiki can not generate a table of content.
90% of b2b software. They literally charge thousands of dollars while giving the worse piece of shit software you’ve ever used.
They always want to charge per user too instead of just charging a monthly fee. They’d rather have no money than not charge per user it’s actual crazy. Imagine any other industry turning away paying customers when it doesn’t cost them anything to have the customer. Software companies are insane. Can’t wait until their funding runs out.
It’s often per user, because the amount of support tickets usually scales with the amount of users.
All of the SaaS I looked at would not be a situation where the end employee would generate tickets. Only I as the owner would and even then the software is kind of set it and forget it for my use case which I made clear to the salesman. Many of them to their credit did kick it up the management chain to get a different quote. Only 1 company out of four or five went for it.
The problem I’ve run into is SaaS companies typically white collar companies who are used to paying per seat where employees generally make 6 figures, where as my blue collar company is full of dozens of part time employees where the per seat model breaks down.
Yah me too, for my small company per seat pricing is really painful. For some services we just have one account and share access; only one person logs in at a time and tells everyone else when they’re done.
Per user licensing is nothing compared to the ridiculousness of per cpu licensing.
Per core licensing walks into the room.
Such shit really exists?
Enterprise Linux distros, enterprise (Oracle-owned) database management systems, etc.
Unfortunately, at work we use a bunch of Finite element modelling software and all of them have that type of licence.
What the actual fuck?
Oracle has entered the chat
IBM’s IBMi products make you pay yearly to activate the cores.
I don’t miss doing Microsoft license audits.
You pay for the support.
And the support sucks.
At least you can shift the blame.
Sometimes. Sometimes whatever executive demanded we use this doesn’t want to hear about it and will throw you under the bus because otherwise it would be their fault.
You wouldn’t need nearly as much support if they made a decent job in the first place.
You understand the model, good job!!!
Oh fuck yeah! So much of my research into new tools is just checking to see if they have a demo, documentation, and price.
When I’m looking for a new tool, I don’t have the time to schedule a “quick” 20 minute call to do introductions and schedule a follow-up hour long meeting followed by a quote sent over in an email days later only to find out the price is so far outside the range there is no way it’s ever going to happen!
I’m not some useless middle manager looking for any excuse to look busy; I don’t have that kind of time to waste!
In a lot of cases, you only see the final price after signing up.
Oof. Yes!
The proprietary cloud crap usually has worse or non-existent documentation, fewer features, and a terrible or non-existent API.
But it comes with a salesperson. So there’s that.
But people with cloud server orchestration skills are terrifyingly expensive right now, so self-hosting a better product can be a very hard sell.
The Salesperson is incredibly important. They take the person responsible for making the purchase decision out to lunch and for rounds of golf, after all!
Hmm really? Would proficiency with Terraform and knowledge of the services offered by at least one major cloud provider be considered “cloud server orchestration skills” or do you mean something more/different?
Yep! My best guess is that maybe 1 in 10 organizations currently has any in-house orchestration skills on staff at all.
(I’m just annecdotaly guessing based on my professional network, which is actually heavily biased towards organizations that have orchestration skills, but also based on job offers that my peers with orchestration skills are seeing.)
And the ones that have it get to charge a premium for shitty cloud services to the ones that do not.
That’s pretty crazy, good to know. We had a hard time hiring a “cloud engineer” last year ourselves, though for the client in question we were looking for deep Azure chops. I’ve been learning some Terraform for this reason so we can respond a bit better, sounds like I might be well served to focus on it. Feel like DM’ing with salaries / offers you’ve been hearing about, if you have?
Sometimes the value add is security, sometimes scaling or uptime. Enterprise considerations aren’t necessarily the same as for individual consumers.
Sometimes it’s just a dogshit product though, and the sales team pulled the wool over some execs eyes.
Sometimes the value add is security
Bahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah
In this case it’s not “security”, it’s offloading the responsibility of security to a 3rd party.
If the enterprise app leaks data, they’re the ones responsible. Not you, the IT guy who chose it
Enterprise software/services/consulting in a nutshell. It’s all just shifting responsibility.
Precisely
All the free widgets that used to come preinstalled in Android before Google killed them to save the extra $2 of development cost from their yearly interns.
it’s not an entire app but, discord profile decorations.
The fact it costs money isn’t surprising, but the amount of money charged is hilarious.
17$ for some graphics that some look like they took about 20 minutes to make. Just to make your profile look different than everyone elses. Then the “discount” given for having nitro for it is even more laughable.
Whats equally insane is that people fall for it. I know some people that have easily spent 60$ on profile decorations. Spending equal or greater than the cost of discord nitro is insane to me, even if the decoration doesn’t expire.
The thing that I find insane is having to pay for Nitro to have an animated .gif as your profile pic.
…The animation is played client-side, so literally costs Discord nothing to do this, and as a matter of fact it’s actually more effort for them to intentionally block animations from playing until you pony up than just letting the browser container the app runs in natively do its thing. Given that the Discord app itself is basically just a glorified webview container with some stuff bolted onto it.
I don’t want to sound like I’m on Discord’s side (I dislike nitro too), but that’s honestly just how a lot of paid add-on features on free apps work. They take away some functionality from the free one to incentivize people to pay.
Holy fuck, as if I needed more reasons to hate Discord… back when I thought it was just a new iteration of xFire I still hated it but could at least see a purpose for it, but it doesn’t even do all the shit xFire could
Xfire was the shit. I’d have paid a couple bucks a month for it, instead of it just dying. It was so crazy ahead of its time. Text chat, voice, game detection and tracking, clans, server browsing, broadcasting, pic and video hosting…
Also how discord dœs stickers . Like custom emojes , they’re tied to discord servers , unless you have nitro then you can use them everywhere . Such BS system , shoulda done them how LINE dœs them : you only need to buy the sticker pack once then you use them anywhere , no shitty subscription needed !
what bothers me even more than the price is that they all suck, and none of them fit my aesthetic. I could make my own decorations, and I’m offended that discord won’t let me.
On a similar note, skins and other cosmetics in video games that do nothing to help with camouflage—or worse—make you stand out more. Never understood why people waste money on that.
Difference is that that shit sometimes looks cool as hell and you see your skin constantly while playing(at least if you play in third person). You won’t stare at your profile picture for hours.
Early days of of micro-transactions did help you blend in more, but I noticed they started diverging away, leaving the more natural camos to be unlocked by gameplay, and the obnoxious/distracting ones as a premium.
I can see that for a free game that you enjoy a lot, and want to reward with some money. You can make a donation, or get a silly skin for the same money (and have it visible that you donated some).
And the animations on them are so obnoxious I actively add custom CSS to remove them.
Vencord FTW
Real Debrid
Touted as necessary when it isn’t, apparently if you have it you have access to a huge cache that you can use to continue to torrent dead files
The issue is that most files nowadays are torrented anyway, so it’s essentially just a ‘do it because I told you so’ step for torrentio users.
Other torrent streaming software don’t even need real Debrid.
Its really slow without it. And its like a vpn but lighter, so you don’t get caught torrenting by an isp.
Isn’t it kind of a middle-man service so you don’t get narc’d on by your ISP for large amounts of p2p traffic? That way all your ISP sees is you downloading data from one source rather than lots of.p2p traffic.
Unless you use vpn obviously, that doesn’t have issues with p2p traffic or whatever.
And in many countries downloading is just fine, sharing isn’t.
And in a torrent swarm you always share (yes there are modded clients, but they’re a niche), making it risky
I discovered it only a while ago and during that time it has been clearly neutered. It just doesn’t work for stuff like it used to.
Most likely copyright strikes caught up to it
A few months ago they got told to quit it so they were like “oh shit apparently there are PIRATES using our piracy service. We never wanted THOSE GUYS as our customers!” and started neutering piracy, which was clearly their main source of income.
Windows
And that despite charging for it, they fill many versions of it with adverts, install without asking bloatware and crap paid for by other companies to shove down your throat, and also sells your personal information to (checks) at least 801 third parties.
Hey! Those 801 third parties are trusted third parties. All of them were properly vetted when they said they wouldn’t misuse our personal data.
Sims freeplay. Haven’t used it for a long time but it sure asks for a LOT of money for a free game 😂
Teams
Thanks, I hate it.
The entirety of Office365 has become crap, especially the online version.
The online version means I don’t ever have to boot into windows to use all the M365 stuff at work, so it gets a “thanks Microsoft!” from me.
I was legit baffled by how such a shit peace of software could become so ubiquitous – until I got to know SAP and realized that Teams isn’t even in the bottom half of enterprise software quality.
A someone who has used and supported teams, WebEx Skype and crazy shit I don’t even remember anymore, Teams is downright reliable and user friendly.
Have you tried webex? It’s like teams but on dumb-‘roids, the notifications are shot, the messages always pull your taskbar up, calls always get routed to either the wrong input or output, calls drop half the time… and the list goes on and on…
It is not great, but however with WebEx, at least it comfortably runs in the browser without consuming all the CPUs.
Yes, I have. Thanks for dumping salt into that wound.
I thought SAP was shit until I worked with Microsoft Dynamics NAV, an ERP from alternate 1990s hell dimension. It has a built-in IDE that uses its own language called C/AL (syntactically similar to Pascal). The only source control is developers’ ability to lock files they are working on. And the code editor is worse than notepad. Seriously, it does not allow to select or paste multiple lines, and in general, acts as if each line is it’s own textbox. Forget about syntax highlighting or anything else other than black text on white background.
And, AFAIK, if your company needs to customize it, you are required to hire a “Microsoft-certified” NAV developer.
That’s simultaneously horrifying and not at all surprising.
Can concur. We have NAV at work and holy fuck it’s awful.
On the plus side it has a 16 colour palate.
Allow me to regale you with a tale of Sun Identity Manager and XPRESS. A strange mangling of xml and pseudo javascript-esque pile of shit used for identity transformations for disparate systems.
On second thought, let’s just not. I’d rather let that PTSD inducing memory slowly fade away, much like SunIDM did after Larry bought them to poach their customer base.
Oh, you’re going to update without notifying me and then not restart?
You truly are the paramount of usefulness, Teams.
and then not restart?
I had Teams restart, twice, during an incredibly important meeting with the government, because it updated itself without my consent.
Workout timer that wants a subscription
I recently tried out an “LED banner” (called LED scroller in the google play store) app that lets you scroll text on your screen. Pretty cool, I would totally pay $5 or maybe even $10 for it. In the free version, I don’t think I’ve ever seen that many ads in such a short period of time. The paid version was $15 PER WEEK. That’s $780 per year. To scroll some text. It’s the only app I’ve ever bothered to post a review for.
Sounds like a front for either blatant adware or malware with botted reviews/downloads to bring it to the top in search results. I can’t image there isn’t a free app that does this.
Could it be money laundering?
It’s just a rip off scam.
It’s just fishing. For every 10 users that notice the deceptive “free trial then bills per week” model, there’s a guy who doesn’t notice until he’s been charged $15 and cancels. And for every ten of that guy, there’s a guy that doesn’t notice for a month, and for every ten of that guy there’s the rare whale who looks at their $700/mo “google bill” and goes yeah that sounds about right.
I remember writing one of those using a bitmap font from some Arduino LCD driver program and publishing it for free on the Android store. Someone offered £50 for the source code and I wonder if they’re related.
There used to be apps in the iOS app store that were nothing but a big “I’m rich” symbol. They would be listed for some shit like $10,000 in the app store and all they did was,at best, have a button that played a sound to indicate that you were in fact rich lol.
Those “I’m rich” apps basically tested the app store price limit which was set to $9,999 (don’t know if it’s different now). Brilliant idea really.
I put this in the same category as the “Million dollar homepage” where some guy asked for $1 a pixel and hosted a page with the results. Something smart that if it gets enough attention could make someone good money for not a lot of work. And generally something that will only work once as copycats won’t be seen to have the same value.
It is expensive, but its not surprising that it costs money
The “pro” versions of common social media apps that remove ads or give you a useless check mark.
I have been creating ad removal patches for 2 apps this week. Revanced is truly amazing
I know you are talking about Xhitter.
But I would Donate my Lemmy Instance go get some funny feature xD.
Custom lolipop emoji to add to your username.
I can do that for free.
Sucker…
Crab Rangoon’s. I just don’t like them. I mean it’s just fried cream cheese.
Where the crab come into it? Deep fried cream cheese sounds awesome
Fun fact, they aren’t called crab Rangoon’s because they’re supposed to include crab meat. That’s called that because when they’re folded up on four sides they look a bit like crabs.
Huh. Damn today i learned…something awesome!
THEY ARE GLORIOUS
There’s a Triad-backed Catonese place near me that makes crab rangoons with actual crab in them. They are fantastic.
Well, if it’s good enough for the triads,
I guess I’m on boardI won’t ask any more questions…
