Hypothetically, that is.
Seems pretty tame compared to various other answers, but keeping people under anesthesia longer than expected during surgery and seeing how it affects things like memory or personality.
Supposedly after an open heart surgery I had gone through over a decade ago, my mother swears my personality changed. Though I can’t remember if that’s true because my memory has felt, in a sense, kinda foggy since then. So I wanna know if it was because I was under for longer than expected or because the surgery itself.
I’d be interested in this too. Maybe some synapsed stop firing if they are put to sleep for long enough.
Alternatively your mother might be gaslighting you.
I doubt she is gaslighting me because there’s not much for her to gain from her doing it. Tighter control over family is something I expect from her family rather than her.
I would wager that it’s more to do with the surgery itself. Even transient hypoxia from blood not getting to your brain for a little bit can make a big difference. Anesthesia is used very frequently with rare complications, but complex heart surgeries have higher complication rates.
Sounds fair enough that it could have just been the surgery. I’m nowhere near a medical professional, but I can totally see unforseen complications having happened to me.
Brains are very finicky things and they get very upset if there’s any disruption in their supply of glucose and oxygen, but anesthetics are carefully selected to not disrupt that as much as possible. Anesthesia might paralyze the muscles you use to breathe, but that’s what the intubation and ventilator is for. The anesthetics we use don’t affect the heart muscle because it uses different ions and chemicals than every other type of muscle in the body to generate contractions. However, open heart surgery will absolutely mess with the heart which will disrupt circulation.
Remove every unhealthy person and/or gene modify existing ones to eliminate every allergy orbodily defect caused by gene defect.
Also gene modify so that theres no mental detorioration and humans die just because they are old and the nody can’t keep up with maintenance.
That’s not even unethical, we just have bioconservatives in charge.
Remove every unhealthy person
Well that seems very unethical.
About gene modification, assuming it were to fully work without risks, it would still only be ethical if the patient were to consent, which not everyone would.
Fair enough, I was letting “or” do a lot of heavy lifting there.
I heard there’s a guy called Luigi with a cool idea.
Just wipe out ALL mosquitoes, and then measure what the actual influence is on the food-web for other animals and plants.
no joke but i remember reading something about this aagggeesssss ago where a group of researchers modelled the effects of no more mozzies on the food chain and found that, because barely anything fucking eats them, their eradication would be negligible
Glad to hear it.
Proceeding with Phase 1.
Phase 1 initiated
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I love the story of the father who raised his son on Klingon until it became too awkward for modern usage.
Thought that would be a fun experiment on my child. Don’t know much Klingon though.
Trolling against some lemmy mods? (surely one of the most hazardous things to to)
Throwing somebody straight into lava in a volcano. Would be interesting to see what happens.
OK Mr. Mishima
Leidenfrost probably
I’d like to see if we can build hybrid computer systems using cultured animal tissue (like Cephalopod or maybe GMO human / Cephalopod), basically grown onto an array of tiny wires. Push sensory information through the tiny wires and see if the lump of cells can learn. If it does, put it in a Eva. Or a butler robot. Or a robot vaccuum.
Idk. Its an idea for a scifi novel I’ve had. Some company does this and what people don’t realize is the supposedly autonomous systems making their lives easier are fully conscious but live tortured existences. It would get more and more lovecraftian as the cephalopod hybrids some how take over (I was thinking maybe cancer? or networked mind) and start chopping everyone to bits. Maybe they try and eat them but they have no mouth, like how an octopus arm when detach will hunt and try to feed a non-existent mouth.
Didnt someone get doom to run on living cells?
Yeah see, but I wanna get live cells running on doom.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8DnoOOgYxck&pp=ygUaUnVubmluZyBkb29tIG9uIGxpdmUgY2VsbHM%3D
Sorry to disappoint ;/
I think that’s a black mirror episode (what dystopian shenanigan isn’t, nowadays?) , something like they copied your mind digitally and then (cruelly) trained the copy to become your perfect digital assistant.
Making a lot of clones of myself, raising them all differently, and seeing how many of them turn out in the same way as me.
Agreed, it’s an interesting thing to think about at least. The nature vs nurture debate is practically as old as time itself but it feels like we’re no closer to an answer outside of “it’s a bit of both.” But how much?
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Twin studies show thats its about 50% each.
50% per twin?
50% genetics and 50% the twin’s respective environment. These twin studies often look at twins separated and raised in different households.
AFAIK genes only account for physical properties like hair color and shit, and upbringing effects everything else.
Source: someone I met who claimed to be a psychiatrist told me and I’ve never confirmed it or that she actually was a psychiatrist.
Not the same, but your comment reminded me of an upcoming game I want to try The Alters
Oooh there’s a playable demo! I’m gonna try it as soon as possible!
There’s a interesting sci-fi book with a (vaguely) similar premise - House of Suns by Alastair Reynolds.
Here’s a very unethical linguistics experiment that I think would be interesting:
Raising a group of children completely isolated from any language, spoken or otherwise. They would not be fully isolated from people, but those people would not be able to communicate with each other in the vicinity of the children (no speaking, no gestures, etc.) Of course, to isolate them from language would mean strictly controlling their lives (very unethical). Could they communicate with each other, and maybe even develop a language?
Haven’t they tried this??
they tried babies without anybody and they all ended up dying at some point. turns out human connection is pretty essential
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_child
Not a controlled environment but it’s happened several times, with varied results.
Hypothesis: Conservatives will refuse to believe contradicting facts regardless of punishment.
Experiment: Use increasingly painful stimulus for negative reinforcement when subjects espouse harmful views, ie racism.
I’m on the “make stupid hurt” train.
Take ten or twenty thousand children, take over a fairly large portion of a midwestern state, build a large and complete environment for them to live in including towns, museums, theme parks etc. and raise them as normal Americans but absolutely 100% avoid introducing them to the concept of religion until they’re 25.
I suspect they’d invent their own. No one introduced religion to humanity. It came from within.
Then the experiment would yield data.
It would yield another religion, originated in a group that could parley their forced participation into fame on social media, which might lead to many more followers and eventually a holy war with the Mormons. Hmm. Might be worth a try.
Before the oldest turns 24, that small city would just sublime into a higher plane, leaving behind nothing but a beautiful prairie and a fresh minty smell.
I’m pretty sure that they would start making one up very soon.
I’m not meaning dump 20,000 children alone in the left half of Wyoming, I mean, keep them with their parents, hire teachers, teach them math and science and…basically a history that replaces a lot of “and they believed their gods said” with “the ruling class decided they wanted to”. What happens to children when they are raised in a functioning, supportive, nurturing society that does not contain religion or superstition?
Many developed countries are majoritarily irreligious. But it’s also hard to draw the line between religion and culture.
So you just wanna expand the absolute bonkers premise of Kid Nation . Lol
Actually no, I was figuring on having adults present to raise, educate and care for the children, but under strict orders to not introduce them to superstition.
I really want someone to just really start messing around with the human genome, see the limits of gene expression. Let’s add horns, let’s add tusks, let’s add tails, and wings, and carapaces, and antennae, and claws, let’s just see what happens. Human evolution has gotten so tired and trite; let’s add some spice.
Don’t let the furrys hear you
Too late. Off to back those experiments… as soon as I figure out how to become one of the suspiciously wealthy furries
Or creating super mutant athletes. Like how fast do you think a modified human body could run? Or jump?
How many billionaires need to be publicly executed to fix the usa political system.
Title says unethical
More than just the ones in America, I’d reckon.
I find those rats with the NOVA1 gene fascinating. I wonder what would happen if we downright tried to give rats human-level intelligence? They are more empathetic than humans I hear, they would make the perfect replacement for our species!
And another thing I would like to try, is to find a really big person, and see how far they can swallow me feet-first, before they run into problems, or one of us is injured.
How can rats have human level intelligence, if we as humans have to essentially consume the whole bodyweight of a rat daily, just to sustain our very energy demanding brains.
Good point. We should try something far longer lived, but good at surviving. Crocodiles? Nah…too much work to get them intelligent. Octopuses maybe?
EDIT: Octopi just to avoid the annoying corrections.
I hope you cut your toenails first!
That said, I doubt anyone would have an oesophagus wide enough to accommodate anything bigger than a hand, so you might need to choose a different host species and potentially, orifice.
That’s why it’s called an unethical experiment
Do you want “Planet of the Rats?” Because that’s how you get “Planet of the Rats”
Actually, I do want planet of the rats