• Didros
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      The classic “you can’t yell fire in a crowded theater” denier.

      • Pete Hahnloser
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        Everyone knows you can only yell “fire” in an empty theatre. You generally get trespassed immediately thereafter.

  • TehPers
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    622 days ago

    On one hand, this feels very “thoughtcrime”-y. On the other, certain people should probably just not have a platform to spew their nonsense on. I’m curious to see how this plays out.

      • @BurningRiver@beehaw.org
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        I feel like as long as the banned speech is extremely specifically defined, I don’t care if they look like martyrs. “The holocaust never happened” is easily defined as holocaust denial, and it’s easy to enforce.

        The problems arrive when a law is passed with an ambiguous, poorly defined meaning like “hate speech”. Hate speech can really mean anything someone else doesn’t like.

      • @rekabis@lemmy.ca
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        The paradox of tolerance disappears if you look at tolerance not as a moral or legal standard, but as a social contract:

        If someone does not abide by the terms of the contract, then they are not covered by it.

        In other words: the intolerant are not following the rules of the social contract of mutual tolerance.

        Since they have broken the terms of the contract, they are no longer covered by the contract, and their intolerance should NOT be tolerated.

    • @jagged_circle@feddit.nl
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      Probably not all of them. We dont know of every one. Some were prehistory.

      I’m not a Finn, but I dont think they were involved in many Holocausts except one?

    • @jagged_circle@feddit.nl
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      Not yet. The ICJ is still examining the mountain of evidence. It will probably take a few more years.

      I dont think we coined the term Holocaust until after the Germans lost the war. I imagine it’ll be the same with Gaza. History needs to happen and be written first.

      • @Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca
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        None of this is accurate even if history started on Oct 7.

        You are blatantly lying.

        Jewish human rights groups and human rights groups all over the world as well as genocide scholars all over the world are calling what is happening a genocide. I’ll put more weight on their conclusions than someone who has nine bullet points of Zionist hasbara.

        • @jagged_circle@feddit.nl
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          521 days ago

          I’d say there is overwhelming evidence that this is likely genocide, but we can’t say it is one until the ICJ finishes reviewing the mountain of evidence against Israel

            • @jagged_circle@feddit.nl
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              420 days ago

              You need to read the definition of genocide. I highly recommend following that with the south African report to the ICJ

              • @sqgl@beehaw.org
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                Gazan civilians are not being “targeted”. It is Hamas and Hezbollah who are intent on genocide. I mean they actual say it - why not believe them?

                If Israel is intent on genocide they aren’t very good at it. They could have wiped out ⅔ of Gazans in the first week after October 7 but chose not to. Meanwhile Hamas and Hezbollah to this day call for ridding the Levant of all Jews but Cannot.

                Trump’s talk of “evicting” Gazans to Libya is disturbing. That would be ethnic cleansing.

                • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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                  A quarter of a million is more than the population of Gaza.

                  No it isn’t. and if it was, then killing 50 thousand people would be killing an even larger percentage of the population than killing a quarter million…

                  So that would be more than all the Arabs in Israel combined.

                  No. It would be a quarter the population of Gaza. These are easily checked facts mate, not sure what you’re trying to prove by lying about them

                  How is the war continuing if by your calculations IDF has already killed all Palestinians (including Palestinians who don’t even exist to make up your fantasy total).

                  What exactly do you think the population of Gaza is?