I (32m) started seeing prostitutes when I was 20 and have done it on and off up to my current age. I find the lack of sexual and emotional connection lures me into to seeing them even when I say I’m going to stop. Whenever I am doing decent financially I end up going back to seeing them. I try to be a spiritual person and read the bible and not lust over women but it can be a struggle and mental battle. Does anyone else have this same bad habit?
Spending money on prostitutes isn’t a bad habit, those are people providing you with a service. The bible is a bad habit. Nothing good in there. If you need help getting away from Christian influences, my DMs are open.
Just fyi sex workers or escorts is a better term
Either way I’m trying to get away from all of it
There’s nothing particularly wrong with lust, sexual attraction, desire for connection, etc. It’s all part of simply being human. Why would you assume that the teachings of the Christian bible are correct, not in just this matter, but any other? Why not any other scripture? Buddhists, for instance, would say that any desire prevents you from progressing spiritually. Satanists (me!) would say that no desire is inherently wrong, and that it’s how the desire is expressed, and it’s whether it overrides someone else’s autonomy that makes a thing right or wrong.
I don’t view paying a prostitute for sexual services as being inherently wrong. It’s wrong if you’ve agreed to sexual fidelity with another person (terms and conditions apply), and it’s wrong if you’re using a prostitute that has been forced into sexual labor. But if you haven’t promised a partner (or partners) that you will be sexually faithful to them, and the prostitute is in the field willingly–or, at least as willingly as anyone that works at any job–then it’s not really any more wrong than, say, paying someone to make a meal for you when you’re hungry. Labor is labor, regardless of the nature of the work.
The first step to overcoming this ‘problem’ is therapy. You want a sexual and emotional connection, and you feel like you’re unable to find it otherwise. You should find a licensed psychotherapist–not a member of the clergy, not a life coach–and work on why you have problems finding that.
Why would you assume that the teachings of the Christian bible are correct, not in just this matter, but any other? Why not any other scripture? Buddhists, for instance, would say that any desire prevents you from progressing spiritually.
Because Jesus Christ rose from the dead. OP is a Christian and believes that.
Satanists (me!) would say that no desire is inherently wrong, and that it’s how the desire is expressed, and it’s whether it overrides someone else’s autonomy that makes a thing right or wrong.
Why should OP listen to and try to appease a Satanist? Your opinion is irrelevant at that stage. This is the same as a Christian telling an atheist that their gay relationship is wrong. Just reversed.
If you’re a satanist, you’re just a Christian who hates God. 🤷♂️
I get it, it’s fun saying you’re a satanist to get a reaction from Christians.
Satanists are like: “We don’t actually believe in satan” which is funny because that’s exactly what satan wants you to think
I’m not personally Christian, but I was raised that way. I was pretty strongly anti-Christian as a result of that upbringing, but when I got to university, my stance was softened significantly by meeting wonderful Christians who were incredibly based. I remember that one of them described that they almost left the faith because of discomfort with their humanity, such as lust. In the end, they concluded that if God had made them with the ability to feel lust and enjoy lustful activities, then it felt wrong to deny this part of themselves (and indeed, they found that their lust was far more moderate and manageable when they stopped fighting themselves so much).
I feel like lust can be good or bad, depending on the context, rather like how I find that playing video games can be good or bad. Sometimes when I game it’s fulfilling, and a good use of my time. Sometimes though, I am desperately chasing some sense of escapism in a way that I can tell is harmful to me. Perhaps your battle would be better spent learning to discern the good from the bad. For example, if you’re super tight on money, then yeah, it’s probably not a great idea to be chasing the lust. But if you have the monetary means, and you’re in a good headspace about it, then perhaps indulging is not a bad thing.
Giving money to prostitutes is charitable.
Yeah, i struggle… cause i don’t know where to find them
No, but I was a victim of Christian purity culture that led me to believe exploring my body safely and consensually before marriage was evil. If you don’t want to do this because it’s a money sink or dangerous then you should stop, but don’t think it’s wrong morally unless the prostitutes you’re hiring are victims of sex trafficking.
How can something be morally wrong if there is no God?
Because ethics, compassion, love, etc aren’t dependant on religion, they’re basic human values.
they’re basic human values.
According to who?
Instinct. Which is a pretty word to say “évolution etched this in our brain as moral people tend to survive longer”
Looking after your grandmother doesn’t benefit humanity. In fact, looking after the old would negatively impact humanity as it’s basically a waste of resources.
How can someone be a moral person if they only act out morally out of fear of a gods wrath?
You can also act morally out of love for God. A moral act is a moral act regardless of intention. The alternative is no morality at all. And in that case, you’re either following the law out of love for your state and/or fellow human, or because you don’t want to be sent to prison for breaking the law.
The alternative is no morality at all. And in that case, you’re either following the law out of love for your state and/or fellow human, or because you don’t want to be sent to prison for breaking the law.
You’re going in a circle there. If individually define moral action as “an action that cannot be derived from anything but some kind of supernatural being”, then yeah, you can dismiss anything else on normative grounds. But then what’s the point of asking “How can something be morally wrong if there is no God?”?
If there is no god there is no other responsibility than your own. No destiny or gods plan to hide behind, no comfort that people who suffer now will have a better place to go to when they die. You either act like a decent person now or you mess up the only chance people have at a nice life. Once you accept that, there is only the choice to help others or at least minimise the damage you cause just by being there. People who would not realise that on their own won’t improve with religion. They are the kind that would only use religion to judge others and decide the infidels lives don’t matter.
There is enough humanist morality that does not include god and a lot of pretty decent morality that comes from non Christian philisophy or religion. If you want religious people who really act good look at the Sikh. If you want a set of humanist morality rules that have nothing to do with the christian god look at the tenets of the satanic temple.
The Satanic Temple has seven fundamental tenets:
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one’s own.
Beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs.
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one’s best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
Do you think only the religious can be moral? That morality only comes from religion? That people cant simply respect others’ lives and live their licpvss according to a moral code?
No. We are inbuilt with a moral code by God. However, people can desensitise themselves to things or lie to themselves. This is why you need a moral code given by God. You cannot have an moral code without God.
Why do you assume that a god is necessary for morality? What led you to this conclusion? What falsifiable evidence do you have?
Morality matters, friend, even for atheists like me. The trouble with the “only believers can be moral” standpoint is that believers can end up doing the most heinously amoral things in the name of their god. Like burning people alive for example. Stoning sinners to death.
But why does it matter? You can still be moral and be an atheist, but it involves adopting someone’s moral standard without any rational basis.
We are inbuilt with a moral code by God.
This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read.
If you believe that an omnipotent God designed everything to be exactly how it is, then its a perfectly logical statement. But then you also have to accept that God gives kids cancer.
I don’t need a god to tell me hurting people is bad.
What if someone else does?
If someone else tells me it’s wrong to hurt people I would agree.
Because morality exists independently of any deity figure. It is ultimately a set of ideas about what constitutes good conduct between humans and the environment around them.
So why does one Humans moral code matter more than another
Why do you believe that it does?
Look mate, we’re a cosmic blip. On the scale of the universe, we don’t even register. We’re born, we live, we die, and on the scale of how long the universe has existed, it’s not even a blink. The universe is about 13,900,000,000 years old. The first single-cell organisms emerged about 3,500,000,000 years ago. Humans, in our current form, have only existed for a mere 300,000 years. Our sun will turn into a red giant in about 5,000,000,000 years, which will sterilize the surface of the earth, but it won’t matter to humans, because we will have evolved into an entirely different species and almost certainly have gone completely extinct billions of years before that happens.
NOTHING we do matters to the universe. There is nothing we can do that will affect the course of the entire universe. Any belief to the contrary is simply terror management. So how could one moral code, in the grand scheme of the universe, matter more than any other?
What makes you believe, aside from your attempts to manage your terror of non-existence, that any of your morality matters at all?
What makes you believe, aside from your attempts to manage your terror of non-existence, that any of your morality matters at all?
Because I believe that the moral code I follow was authored by a Creator higher than the universe.
If you’re an atheist, morality simply is just a suggestion.
It is enforced, by varying degrees, by the censure or support of other humans, as well as one’s own conscience.
The moral code you follow may have been authored by a creator figure. It may not have. Frankly, it’s beside the point. In practice, Christian morality is enforced by support or censure of the church and its teachings. It takes as its bedrock a shared conception of humanity as the Created. An atheist’s or humanist’s morality is similarly enforced by support or censure of their human community, though with a different bedrock (a belief in the dignity and capacities of humanity, for instance, either absent of or separate from a deity).
One does not need to be a Christian to act morally. It does mean certain lines may be drawn in areas different than a Christian, but I would say that that simply makes the individual a non-Christian where those lines do not otherwise impede on, say, humanity’s inherent dignity.
I want to say I write this with full respect for your beliefs in your Creator. I believe tolerance for the beliefs of others, where they do not impede on those who do not share those beliefs to live their lives freely, is important. I will add that if OP was being truthful, and actually is a Christian struggling with soliciting sex workers, your suggestion to seek out the Church is a valid one. If nothing else, it places him among humans that share the values he seeks to embody, and may help him on the path he wishes to walk.
For my part, I see no issue so long as both parties enter these arrangements with no coercion or out of compulsion, with the issue here being (absent the Christian context, irrelevant for me but not necessarily you or OP) the compulsion. If it feels bad, and it serves no greater aim, don’t do it, figure out why you’re doing it, and do things more aligned with your morals and ideals - that’s my take.
Because my god can beat up your god.
Who is your god?
Obviously the one true God.
And his name is…
JOHN CENA 🎺🎺 🎺
Cart before the horse. You may want to get your dangerous addiction to toxic christianity under control before addressing your perceived sex worker problem. Perhaps you have salvation and vice inverted. Best of luck.
There’s no need to instantly hate on Christianity without further context. If you’re going to one of the cultish hate-spreading or profit-driven churches, sure, but there are also many community-focused denominations which are good to go to as a place you’ll be welcomed at a low point in your life. I don’t attend any and am not particularly religious, but I imagine if I felt truly alone and had nowhere else to turn that an Episcopal/Methodist/similar church would be quite high on the list of physical places it’d be good to go.
It looks like you just heard a swipe at Christianity out of the blue and took offense to it, but there is actually a significant amount of context here. OP’s conflict is framed very much as a Christian struggle between “being a spiritual person” according to the bible and “lusting after women.”
I don’t think we need more information from OP to label Christianity’s attitudes toward sex and even women generally, and absolutely sex workers, as toxic. You don’t have to agree with that but it’s not exactly out of the blue.
They’re seeing prostitutes as a problem because of lust over women, that’s enough context to know it’s problematic.
I’m a Christian and attend church weekly.
Thank you for this. Unfortunately too many people on the Fediverse seem to think people are perfect angels until they get corrupted by religion.
It’s sad.
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The problem is not your ‘lust over women’. That’s a perfectly natural human impulse. The problem, if it exists, is that it’s negatively impacting your relationships and finances.
I haven’t really been lusting over women of late so yes I agree and I think boredom and hypersexuality might play a decent role
Are you in a cycle of shame and binge?
Lust is natural. Bottling up natural urges rather than processing or redirecting them can lead you to a cycle of shame and binge. At that point it’s valuable to work through it, whether that’s alone or with a professional.
Hypersexuality is complicated because it’s often not a biological thing but a relation to your shame and denial, or it’s a means of pursuing something else
It is a biological impulse. It has what it is, obviously getting somebody to love is the hard solution but it is more rewarding over medium to long term.
Personally, sex wouldnt cut it, I would have to pay for extra hours for her to hear my shit 🤣
You may be surprised to know a lot of people who book time with sex industry workers pay for the companionship, and sex never happens.
Companion is still a biological need.
I haven’t seen anyone in the comments try to justify your actions from a chrisitian point of view. I’ll try and likely fail. I’m a former christian.
There is no “thou shalt not lust after a woman” commandment. There is a “thou shalt not commit adultary” commandment. And there is the admonition from Mathew that if you lust after a woman you’ve already committed adultary in your heart.
But here’s the rub. How do you define adultary? ANY sex before marriage? Or cheating on a spouse? If you define it as cheating on a spouse, then I can see where Mathew is coming from. A married man lusting after a woman who isn’t his wife HAS emotionally cheated on her already. But by that definition, a single man CAN’T commit adultary with a single woman. There’s no cheating. Prostitute or not, two single consenting adults don’t break that commandment.
I don’t think adultary means “sex outside of marriage” I think it means “sex outside of marriage”. Big difference.
I believe extremists like to push the commandments to encompass more than they really do.
I don’t think adultary means “sex outside of marriage” I think it means “sex outside of marriage”. Big difference.
Maybe I’m dumb but I don’t see the difference here?
I think that they meant to write something like:
I don’t think adultary means “sex while unmarried” I think it means “sex outside of your marriage”. Big difference.
That makes sense.
Yea, sorry. “No sex outside of marriage” was a phrase I’d heard a lot growing up inside Christianity. I was making a joke that this particular phrase could be interpreted either way. As in no unmarried sex. Or no sex with people you’re not married to.
Whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. Hebrews 13:4
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, … they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-21
Also former christian
There are so many direct contactios in the Bible. So if you actually care, which side do you pick and why is that side correct but not the other?
There was no contradiction here. The original commenter was using the argument from silence to try and justify premarital sex. But that’s irrelevant as prostitution is condemned anyway
John 8
8 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
He said that she was forgiven and shouldn’t sin anymore. He didn’t say “prostitution is now okay”.
Perhaps I could have bolded: 7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
So we shouldn’t stone adulterers? I never said we should.
That’s moot considering prostitution is already specifically condemned.
1 Corinthians 6:15-18
Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! Or do you not know that he who is joined to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, “The two will become one flesh.” But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.
Ok, but admonishment of OP is also a sin, as Jesus himself saved Mary Magdalene from being stoned to death.
The lesson being that humans are not perfect, and will inherently sin. Even in your passage (which, is that from the NIV Bible? I have issues with that translation) it was specifically about addressing the type of prostitution in Corinth, which was more akin to rape and forced marriage (and based on historical artifacts, perhaps even pedophilia) than modern prostitution which is an exchange of money and no relationship (and before any mentions of payments is mentioned, no, a post rape “dowry” is not the same). Hence the reference to the quote on marriage about “The two will become one flesh”.
The issue isn’t the act of sin itself, but pretending it is not sin, that you are better than sin; not acknowledging the sin. OP does try to control it, and doesn’t engage in wanton unrestrained lust - thus they have already repented. Of they still feel guilty after, and assuming it’s not caused by peer pressure, that is their burden to carry, because it means they are using lust to fill some other damage their soul carries.
But your admonishment of their action, however, is judgement. And you must remember that you’ll be judged as well.
Of course, I lean towards what could be said is the traditional Jesuit ideology, so I only take mostly into importance what is ascribed to be the direct word of Jesus rather than what was mostly said by disciples of his such as Paul, let alone co-authors such as Sosthenes who is also involved with Corinthians.
There is nothing in the Bible about Mary Magdalene being stoned to death. You’re probably thinking about an unnamed woman in John 8:1-11. He does admonish her, instructing her to “go and sin no more.”
I used the ESV. I am a fellow NIV-hater, too. I can use the NRSV if you’d like.
1 Corinthians 6:15-20 NRSV
[15] Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Should I therefore take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! [16] Do you not know that whoever is united to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For it is said, “The two shall be one flesh.” [17] But anyone united to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. [18] Shun fornication! Every sin that a person commits is outside the body; but the fornicator sins against the body itself. [19] Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God, and that you are not your own? [20] For you were bought with a price; therefore glorify God in your body.
I think getting pedantic about the meaning of prostitute here is kind of just looking for an excuse to be hedonist. The language here is more about unnecessary fornication that Paul uses, rather than forced purchases.
The issue isn’t the act of sin itself, but pretending it is not sin, that you are better than sin; not acknowledging the sin. OP does try to control it, and doesn’t engage in wanton unrestrained lust - thus they have already repented. Of they still feel guilty after, and assuming it’s not caused by peer pressure, that is their burden to carry, because it means they are using lust to fill some other damage their soul carries.
I am not here to condemn OP. I would even like to support OP. But people trying to reassure OP by lying to him by saying “it’s actually not a sin because historical xyz” and trying to wriggle their way out of that piece of scripture, is not something I want to sit and watch. If you want to reassure OP, reassure him that he’s not going to hell because of God’s forgiveness. Yes, this isn’t a licence to sin, but I don’t think OP is treating it that way. He seems to be struggling.
But your admonishment of their action, however, is judgement. And you must remember that you’ll be judged as well.
NOT ONCE did I judge OP. And admonishment isn’t judgement. I’m just not letting people lie to him by trying to convince me that a sin isn’t a sin. We are literally instructed to admonish one and other
Colossians 3:16 NRSV
Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly; teach and admonish one another in all wisdom; and with gratitude in your hearts sing psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs to God.
If you’re a Jesuit, then you should know the Catechism of the Roman Catholic church forbids prostitution.
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Prostitution does injury to the dignity of the person who engages in it, reducing the person to an instrument of sexual pleasure. The one who pays sins gravely against himself: he violates the chastity to which his Baptism pledged him and defiles his body, the temple of the Holy Spirit. Prostitution is a social scourge. It usually involves women, but also men, children, and adolescents (The latter two cases involve the added sin of scandal.). While it is always gravely sinful to engage in prostitution, the imputability of the offense can be attenuated by destitution, blackmail, or social pressure.
Jesus called prostitutes out of sin.
I don’t know where to find them, I’m broke, and my spirituality says it’s ok. Have you thought about getting a religion more conducive to your values?
I don’t know where to find them, I’m broke, and my spirituality says it’s ok. Have you thought about getting a religion more conducive to your values?
You shouldn’t choose a religion because you agree with it. You should choose a religion because it’s convincing.
I think even an Atheist would understand that. They might like a religion’s teachings, but won’t convert because they simply aren’t convinced.
Have you thought about getting a religion more conducive to your values?
If you think like this it makes me wonder if you’ve ever fully bought into a religion before. When I was growing up and still believed in God, I believed in my religion so I held its moral values. There was some wiggle room insofar as what type of Christian I could be (like which denomination) but the idea of just converting to a different religion because I liked their moral system better would be silly because I didn’t believe in that religion.
If you think like this it makes me wonder if you’ve ever fully bought into a religion before.
You’re close to the mark on that. When I was a very little kid I remember being creeped out by all churches. I went to Catholic kindergarten and my grandfather was an Episcopalian reverend. Around the age of 12 I realized nobody was answering my prayers so I became an Atheist by default. Now I’m somewhere between “Through science we can explain the nature of the universe” and “Tezcatlipoca has a claim on my soul and Tlatecuhtli thirsts for my fetid blood”.
Maybe the answer is learning. Helicopter parents don’t allow kids to learn the hard lessons.
Listen, if you didn’t want Tlatecuhtli thirsting for your blood you should’ve thought of that before getting tasty blood. Eat less sugar or something.
But on a more serious note I remember having a discussion towards the end of my faith/middle of my deconstruction with a coworker who was Hindu (though I don’t know how bought in he was). It was basically this same conversation. He was saying something about why don’t Christians just find a different religion. Almost like it’s going to a store to buy a shirt or something. But in reality it’s like “I believe I am morally obligated to buy and own red shirts. I think blue and green ones are neat, and there are designs from them that red shirt designers can learn from, but I am morally obligated to buy and own red shirts because it’s the right thing to do.”
I said my blood is fetid.
In my experience with living in Christian dominated Texas the Christians would steal from me directly or my paycheck. Then they would forgive themselves without ever compensating me for the theft. Afterwards they would claim moral superiority demanding I subjugate myself to them and it’s only right that I toil for them to enrich themselves.
The Teotl make more sense to me than the foreign gods despite myself not being aboriginal. Hence my blood is fetid.
It’s more like “Brahma (God) is One, the faces of Brahma are many.” He’s also triune, with Vishnu and Shiva.
Kind of like the 72 names of God.
I’m not talking about Hinduism.
That’s disgusting.
Matthew 7:21-23 ESV
[21] “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. [22] On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ [23] And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Hindus aren’t monotheists. Iirc, Hindus kind of believe most religions are real, a lot of them believe that Jesus is an image of God I think. They are more open to people picking and choosing a god. Christians only believe there is one true God.
Yes, but at the same time there are still some more dogmatic Hindus who don’t view the Christian God as some other deity.
Was he one of them?
a coworker who was Hindu (though I don’t know how bought in he was).
Do you want to know? There are whole subreddits dedicated to the subject.
Oh god what kind of sick perverted fuck would do that?! Use Reddit?
In this case, johns looking for hookers. You know, it’s full of your typical back alley bastards. /s
Not particularly. I don’t drink, I don’t gamble, I don’t participate in pre-marital sex, I don’t steal, I don’t gorge myself, I don’t physically attack people, and I’m pretty honest also. I contribute all of that due in fact I’m the furthest away from the light of Christ I’ve ever been in my life. The more I disregard what Abrahamic religions hold in importance the more pious I become.
It’s almost like there are different paths for different people.
It’s almost like the Christians crash the economy and deprive me of the resources to commit the sins that they wail against.
No worries, I just would have helped if it was something you wanted, but nobody should be forced into anything they don’t want to do.
I totally agree with your point that Christian values can drive the temptation towards “vice”—I just told OP the same thing in my reply to him. If you don’t create a moralistic contradiction for yourself, there is no tension to rebel against.
You don’t wanna know where to find them. Im a Christian and have been reading the Bible pretty frequently as of late and it does have me think negatively in paying hookers. I’d just say curiosity on what new girls are on the page and what their asking donation is. I can go without sex but after awhile it gets frustrating being in a dry spell
You didn’t answer my question. You keep repeating “I’m a Christian” so much I think you’re a troll account.
If not then answer this question, “Why are you a Christian?”. I’ve got no use for the foreigner god, why do you?
I’m suspecting a troll account too. The repeated assertion that they’ve been reading the Bible is a weird point to keep making. As if it’s someone who has only the most superficial understanding of Christianity.
If there was some mention of actual verses, then that’d be one thing - but as it is, it feels like OP is just farming replies than actually after advice.
Are you masturbating at all? I can imagine being so horny that a porn subscription seems tempting, but masturbating would clear that up. It seems like you’ve skipped several levels and gone straight to the most expensive masturbation enhancement.
Been a couple days but yeah. Another habit I’m trying to stop
Even Flax_vert understand that’s not the best approach.
Really?
I’m going to be honest with you, as a Christian to another Christian. I think you’re best weaning yourself off of the prostitutes first, then focus on the masturbation issue. That’s if you cannot quit cold turkey. But it sounds like you cannot.
I think the person above you is saying that if you masturbated more you would not have problems with prostitution
You should do it more, not less.
Vices are a natural part of being human. But vices can easily become difficult to manage in a healthy manner. But it sounds like you are lonely and your religion and the service from adult workers is trying to fill the void. I get it, life is hard and tough and very lonely.
Why not try to take it easy on yourself. We are all fallible, but we should strive to better ourselves, look it seems that is exactly what you are trying and wanting. This might seem stupid but I started jogging last year. I fucking sucked, but someone told me try moving half an hour a day 2-3 times a week and in a year you would have succeeded in something to further build upon. So I jogged a block and basically died, but almost a year later it changed my life, I joined a jogging group at work, made new friends and running partners, and comradeship. I am not a jogger, still doing a 5km at 57 minutes yesterday, a parkrun with friends. But my point is not to start jogging, but maybe find a hobby or activity that allows you to interact with people, no matter how stupid, and if it is something to be active then there may be a double benefit.
This will not solve your issues or vices, but I learned little by little it becomes a lot, and maybe working on yourself physically or socially, even if you are a fish out of water, will yield results in different ways. It sounds like you are working on yourself spiritually, I hope since you started you have seen a difference. But changing yourself will require work, that is what makes it so satisfactory because you worked for this change, but there isn’t a quick fix or and shortcut, but the answer is easy, small efforts everyday, results in big hard worked changes after a while.
Good luck on your journey, I hope you are able to deal with your vices and issues in a healthy but productive way.
Thank you dude. Appreciate your words
Jesus liked the prostitutes too.
True, but He didn’t advocate for people buying them and sleeping with them. He advocated for them to be free from their vice.
